I have frequented many of the above networks on my modern nomadic travels looking to be useful and find my niche as well as picking up skills from odd places and building community in the process.
Found this site to be a fresh FREE alternative to the above, Its new as yet but seems to fill a needed niche to connect people who need help and helpers!
Looks like it plays on the nomad base concept but for those who make it a point to get involved in whatever is going on at their current base.
there is something very wrong about us to think that way
here another links of "suspicious" not-for-profit sites for volunteers
Tom Harakiri wrote:It is very sad to see people thinking only paid things are worth it and anything for free made by volunteer work is suspicious and has a hidden agenda..
Didn't say that. It's not a question of paid versus volunteer or suspicious hidden agendas.
Couchsurfing is free and offers some security to hosts and surfers alike. These other sites have no feedback mechanism for either hosts or helpers.
But I'd argue that $15 a year is a small price to pay to show a host you are serious. It's not like the money is going to some faceless corporation.
Jacques Bedard wrote:
Didn't say that. It's not a question of paid versus volunteer or suspicious hidden agendas
my bad. I have misinterpreted your first post, sorry
Jacques Bedard wrote:Couchsurfing is free and offers some security to hosts and surfers alike. These other sites have no feedback mechanism for either hosts or helpers.
Couchsurfing is collecting your information, the more complete is your profile the better. Have you read their term of use? That's how they raised $15 million.
Feedback mechanism? If someone gets a negative review or 2 he/she can make another profile just like that.. I have seen ppl doing it, in all networks.
I have been a member of Hospitality Club (sold out with airbnb) and Couchsurfing since 2005, Helpx and WWOOF Internationals for years. I have used the networks A LOT while traveling, enough to know that people are not completely honest with their reviews, is simple: if you write something negative you will get a negative reference back and how is the reader going to know who was right?
unfortunately, bewelcome.org a much more ethical alternative didn't manage to be popular enough
I have had good and bad experiences hosting and surfing/volunteering, we are talking about human relationships here, you never know how is going to be.
Google: "wwoof/helpx/cs bad experience" and you will get plenty of results
At some point I decided to stop paying attention to references/ratings from hosts/surfers and I had "not-so-positive" experiences with people who had only positive references. Also worked the other way, I had positive experiences with people who had negative references.
I have never been verified in any of the networks, never paid for CS verification scam (that claims you are more likely to find a host if you are verified) and used paypal/prepaid cards to buy my memberships in the other sites.
Jacques Bedard wrote:But I'd argue that $15 a year is a small price to pay to show a host you are serious. It's not like the money is going to some faceless corporation.
I don't see how can you be more serious when you pay.. recently, in the helpx group in fb someone asked hosts how often volunteers don't show up/cancel and the answer was 50/50..
I have met people (including some of my friends) buying 3-4 wwoofing list for one trip (1 per country) just to find out they weren't accepted by any host for different reasons (skills, availability, etc).
All this from my personal experiences, you had yours and it was probably different
A couple of examples here that give you an idea.
Canada : 12 on volunteerbase, 1714 on workaway, 1725 on helpx
USA : 98 on volunteerbase, 2170 on workaway, 1653 on helpx
Nice idea, but it appears it never really took off.
Pay to Contact Sites
https://wwoofusa.org/ Cost - 40$ single, 65$ couple, lasts 1 year
http://www.helpx.net/ Cost - 29$ for 2 years
https://www.workaway.info/hostlist.html Cost 34$ for 1 year
http://worktrade.org/ Cost - 30$ for 2 years
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