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Gilbert Fritz
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I am not a critic of Biodynamic farming, neither am I a supporter. I just don't have enough information, and find that things are always stranger than I thought! I really like the work of Ecology Action, which borrows from Biodynamics. In particular, the borrow the moon planting dates. Here is a crittical Permies thread on this. I would like to hear some Biodynamic folks respond.

http://www.permies.com/t/34076/soil/Tidal-forces-soil-moisture
 
Jeanine Gurley Jacildone
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Since I don't consider myself smart enough to follow all of the scientific data and conversation..... I just figured I would try it and judge for myself. My Aunt and Grandparents always planned by the moon and signs.

So I did try it. I grew more stuff. Coincidence? I don't know but the results convinced me - over and over again. That was good enough for me.

Mother nature doesn't read the scientific journals either so I figure I'm in good company.
 
wayne stephen
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Does nature plant by the moon and signs ? What about those little maple seed pods fluttering to the ground in early summer ? Dandelion puffballs dispersing in the wind ? The birds eating berries and other seeds and spreading them around ? Seeds from ginseng that take two years to germinate ? This concept raises more questions for me rather than simple answers .
 
wayne stephen
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The moon has variations in its distance to earth . Apogees{most distant} and perigrees[closest} . We will see the lunar phases at the apogee and the perigree . So we will see a new and full moon at it's furthest point from the earth and a new and full moon at its closest point . Does not the new moon phase at the perigree exert more gravitational force than the full moon at the apogee ? What gravitational effect on the tidal forces is the reflected light of the sun adding to the equation ?
 
Nick Kitchener
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And maybe the effect is directly on the seed itself? That would explain why formal studies haven't identified a link yet. Maybe it has more to do with the lifecycles of soil organisms, or even fungi...
 
Stewart Lundy
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It's worth taking into account some research done about weed germination rates under the influence of Moonlight: http://www.ars.usda.gov/is/ar/archive/dec95/tilling1295.htm?pf=1

If they are recommending to plow a field under a New Moon (total darkness), then there is a corollary that should be made explicit: plant under a Full Moon.
 
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http://www.ars.usda.gov/is/ar/archive/dec95/tilling1295.htm?pf=1

In this article cited by Stewart Lundy the effort was to avoid exposing seeds to any light at all . That included headlights from tractors . So , using this argument , exposing seeds to the light of a full moon [or any light at all] would hasten germination . Since the light of the full moon is reflected sun light would not exposure to the following days sunlight have an even greater effect on that germination ? Using this argument then , could you conclude that the effects of a full moon and the following days sunlight provide an optimal germination enviroment ? Is a full moon night and a cloudy day following less than optimal ? From what I know most seeds do not require light to germinate . Gibberellins and soil conditions are more important to break dormancy . Some need exposure to fire . I believe most vegetable seeds are not light dependent . Correct me if I am wrong .
 
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