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Growing Asian Persimmons

 
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Anybody here grow Asian persimmons? I have no experience with these trees, but I'm thinking about starting some from cuttings this winter, and so I'd like to learn a bit more before I get started. I especially would like to hear from people with good  varieties for the Pacific Northwest.
 
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From what I understand Persimmons do not grow from cuttings.  I buy rootstock from some of the universities and graft.
 
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American persimmons are easy to grow from cuttings, but I was told Asian persimmons are next to impossible by a friend who used to run a large tree and greenhouse operation.
 
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In the past I have grown them from the seeds in store-bought persimmons.
I wanted to do that again this year and bought 2 persimmons. Sadly, NO SEEDs!
 
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