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winecaps? help with positive ID please

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I don't know how I missed these....must have popped up just a couple days ago?

at first I thought they were shiitakes since I add old plugged logs to those beds and get an occasional surprise mushroom.

Looking closer though, I wonder if they are wine caps?
The three younger one's look correct and the older ones have pale lilac gills? a few have a visable ring on the upper stem.
They are very buggy and overblown. ..what might look like white spots in a photo are big holes.

They were all along the bottom edge of my wooden sided beds in our shaded hoop house.

I removed them before I thought to get photos.

If I can positively ID them as winecaps I would like to propagate them in that path...we have wood chips.

We grew some in a garden bed with strawberries more than five years ago and it seems unlikely these would be from those?

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They certainly look like it.
Check that they spore print black, but I'm 99% sure that's them.

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The stem is solid (other than the holes from bugs)

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Lucky you, the are all wine caps.

They may have come in on your woodchips if you didn’t introduce them deliberately.

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similar but European...
Stropharia hornemannii
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stropharia_hornemannii

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Megan, that would be great!
The beds had been covered with wood chips over the winter and I removed most to plant...seems odd that the mushrooms were at the bottom edge of the wooden sides although chips were on the floor also but decomposed....now it is bamboo leaves.

If I wanted to encourage them do you suppose I could just chop up these and mix with more wood chips?

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Judith, a slurry would certainly work, as would digging up some of the mycelium from where you harvested these wine caps.

They are a little fussy about the type of woodchips though. I found that they didn’t do so well in pine.

How far away were your original strawberry beds - you might be surprised how far the mycelium is able to travel!

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Pearl Sutton wrote:They certainly look like it.
Check that they spore print black, but I'm 99% sure that's them.

thanks Pearl!
spore print in the works!
will post results tomorrow.

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Stropharia rugosoannulata
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stropharia_rugosoannulata

This article says spore print is 'dark purple-brown to black'.

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megan, the strawberry patch is maybe 30 feet from this end of the hoop house...we do move things around, plants with soil and even chips sometimes.

I suppose it's more likely they just showed up in the more recent chips.

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