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Wyatt Barnes wrote:I wonder if a visible line, string, flagging tape or single strand of wire strung up high would deter deer from jumping?



From what I have read that should work and be pretty cost effective. You can get hi-vis mason line on amazon - like 1000 feet for $10. String that around the posts about a foot above the panels and repeat every foot or so above that first one until it is about 8 feet. I think the hi-vis stuff can be only partially seen by the deer (why hunters use it) and it confuses them because they don't know exactly how wide the strands are.
 
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The double fence will work also. I have seen it in use at a small organic farm nearby.

Some hunters will plant something for the deer to attract them to a certain area. Maybe if the deer had their own "garden" they might not be so interested in yours.
 
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I second the double fence idea, especially when used as a chicken run. The pest controll, use of space, and deer protection is outstanding. I live in one of the highest deer populated areas in the nation. If you consider our registered hunters a militia, it would be the 4th largest army in the world. Double fences work. The chicks love cleaning up the hard to clean fence line, and weeds and scraps from the garden are an arms throw away to feed them. If properly graded, the run can wash their nutrients directly into the garden. Plant sunflowers, amaranth, corn, etc and climbing squashes on the outsides of those runs, and you have a nice little nutrient flow, chicken feed, chicken poo, cycle that works beautifully. Oddly enough, Deer don't really like pumpkin like vines and sunflower...near me atleast. They are too jabby-hairy-spiney. And the amaranth, well they just plainly have shown no interest in. I say quinoa and amaranth, because they have small seed, that other birds can't easily swoop and steal while being guarded by chix, and both high in protein.

Not sure if you eat meat, but they also don't really like smelling one of their own being slow smoked.
High - vis deer line is a scam. Deer are blue green colorblind, like some humans. Stringing pinecones on a fishing line works fine. High vis, is so people don't walk into them. The idea of a high strung wire, is deer have poor depth perception and will sometimes not take the risk of jumping, because they cannot gauge the hight due to the fine focus required to look at the wire, making the foreground bury and even harder to judge. Think aperture on a camera. Or try to look at the lines on your hand, and the room beyond your hand at the same time.

 
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Day 12

The fence is coming along nicely, and I even started laying out some brush and rotten wood in the shape of some keyhole beds. At first I was thinking I would build the beds and then seed them, but I have tons of old seeds, so I figured I'd just throw a bunch of them out willy-nilly and then keep building the beds with the already-seeded soil. If some seeds come up, great, and if not, well then I have plenty more and I can plant them when I finish building the beds.

The seeds I broadcast today were from a defunct farm in northern Vermont, and ranged in age from 3 to 23 years old. In order to fit them all into my luggage when I flew out here, I opened them all and mixed them together in big ziploc bags. This saved a lot of space compared to keeping all the packets, and while I mostly don't know which seeds are which, I did write down everything in a big list. There's over 70 different species in the mix, and of those, some have up to 12 different varieties.

Nature is a better gardener than me, so I'm going to try to let her make as many of the decisions as possible.
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seeding chaos
seeding chaos
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feebly attempting order
feebly attempting order
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mama nature
mama nature
 
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Evan, I laughed out loud when I saw your jar of seeds all nicely mixed together. The outcome of their germination is worth an eBook at least. You are getting lots done. Such fun to "watch" you grow.
 
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Day 13

Look at that deer! She wants my plants to grow so she can eat them!
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oh dear
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Sepp's bone sauce...... I read it is suppose to deter everything.....
 
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You could try using some fishing line to keep the deer out. Here's a thread about the technique. https://permies.com/t/7921//Fishing-line-deer
 
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Good luck saving your crops! I do not know the seasons there, but you may need to eat her before she eats your garden!
 
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I vote for a preemptive strike.
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