Success has a Thousand Fathers , Failure is an Orphan
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Success has a Thousand Fathers , Failure is an Orphan
LOOK AT THE " SIMILAR THREADS " BELOW !
Success has a Thousand Fathers , Failure is an Orphan
LOOK AT THE " SIMILAR THREADS " BELOW !
allen lumley wrote:after your water reaches, and can be held at 150ºF, Only a small amount of additional UV exposure is necessary !
Success has a Thousand Fathers , Failure is an Orphan
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allen lumley wrote:I mention what I believe is a transcribing error that snuck into the reporters story, The important thing is that this was a working model and we should hear
more about this !
https://permies.com/t/39343/energy/Solar-water-desalination-breakthrough
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Michael Cox wrote:Assuming you can get 50% efficiency of your collector (unlikely) and that you can get a consistent 3 hours of good conditions per day (depends on environment obviously), you would need 4 square meters of collector to produce 1kg of distilled water. For a typical family wanting only drinking water you might aim for around 10kg of water.... 40 square meters of collector. This puts solar distillation squarely outside cost effective/practical approaches.
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Troy Rhodes wrote:Distilling removes arsenic, but won't necessarily kill all microorganisms
Distilling won't remove some volatile contaminants, like benzene or gasoline, that usually takes carbon filtration.
Distilling won't remove some volatile contaminants, like benzene or gasoline, that usually takes carbon filtration.
Troy Rhodes wrote:"Assuming no direct cross-contamination, (dirty water coming into direct contact with clean) "
That's trickier than it sounds. Not really difficult, but I was just pointing out that distillation won't necessarily achieve reliable killing temperatures, and some glazing removes enough UV that that might not get it done either.
Given that gasoline (and other oils) and water aren't easily miscible, and assuming no other contaminant that helps with the mixing process, how much of any common fuel oil wouldn't be removed by settling and skimming?
In bulk amounts, your method will work to remove the majority of the oily contaminant. But in ppm amounts, which can have health ramifications, the volatile contaminants won't necessarily rise to the top due to brownian motion/mixing.
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Michael Cox wrote:I'm pretty sure that hydrocarbon pollutants are broken down fairly well in biological sand filter systems... Rings a bell from some technical paper I saw a few years ago.
Pretty much the only dirty water source that needs a distillation approach is one with heavy metal or salt contaminants. Seems like a perverse design criteria to use solar when other systems are more reliable (they work 24/7 and don't depend on weather), cheaper (sand and a couple of old oil drums) and scale up more easily ( need to double your capacity? Get a second drum in parallel vrs adding an acre of poly tunnel.)
2. The energy needed to evaporate the water is the same regardless of temperature - it takes longer at lower temperatures but the same total energy is needed, you can't get around it by saying it doesn't need to boil
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