TIL: "ecologically sustainable development" is searched for more often than "permaculture". The thing that bugs me is that people type all of that in when searching for it.
Might it be fair to say that people that are searching for "ecologically sustainable development" would be happier with the result set when searching for "permaculture"?
Or, is their idea of "development" mean something I'm not thinking of?
How would we go about getting our sites included in that search? Maybe put an article or paragraph or two on our sites that are entitled ecologically sustainable development??
I think it says it all.
I am planning to change all that at Saint Andrews. Permaculture will be mentioned in every single one of my essays.
Brenda Groth wrote:
maybe those individuals who are typing in all those letters have never heard of the word permaculture? Maybe we should find a way to include permaculture sites in the list that would pop up if someone searched ecologically sustainable development??
I agree - I didn't know the term until I stumbled across it after hearing it in a documentary, then I searched for it and found this site - after a long search!
if you put in a link url with the text "http://www.google.com/webhp#q=permaculture" Then every time someone clicks on it, google will register a search for permaculture. Maybe there are sites that link to (auto generated) searches for "ecologically sustainable development" as hot buzz words?
Either way - the number of times we've written "ecologically sustainable development" in this thread should boost hits for the site.
paul wheaton wrote:...is their idea of "development"  something I'm not thinking of?
I think most of the Google users in question want to hear about perpetual exponential growth, or pollution-free gentrification, or (as tel jetson mentions) compassionate colonialism.
"evelopment" is one of those fundamental terms that becomes a piece of jargon in a large number of disciplines, and ends up confusing people when they try to talk across areas of expertise. But in this case, the jargon is similar enough to paper over that confusion, whereas confusion between a software developer and a bottle of photograph developer would be discovered a lot more quickly.
Permaculture designs tend to include a special and limited space for development, rather than seeing everything as a means toward development. It is a different sort of question, to ask "what place might development have in my life?" versus "assuming we'll develop this thing ruthlessly, how can we mitigate the environmental consequences?"
By scanning the above article on Google's internal ranking system says that not only does it consider the number of links pointing to a page but it also counts how important the pages are that are sending the link (a link from a popular page like amazon is worth much more than a link from an unknown blog for example).
Of course, this just determines in what order the pages found are listed not whether a particular page is listed in the first place.
As far as I know, Google rates pages by the number of pages containing links pointing to that page.
Now you are wandering into the realm of SEO. Such a massively complicated space. To talk about this more, I think it should it should be taken up in the "tinkering" forum.
As to development: I recently saw a link to a lecture, given by an economist named Tim Jackson. He wrote a book called something like 'prosperity without growth,' and it seems like both the book and the lecture begin by efficiently dismantling claims that development, as we currently know it, might be sustainable.
At the end of the lecture, he fields a question about carbon-neutral growth, and mentions that carbon is only one dimension of this: not only would long-term prosperity-building have to be carbon-negative, it would have to address land use, biodiversity, and a whole host of issues. This suggests to me that permaculture might be a part of what he is looking for.
TEC lecture: Economic reality check