Oh no! How do I get back to Old View?

I switched to New View a couple of days ago to check it out again, and see which additional features would work, but it's so slow on my poor internet connection that I want to switch back. But I can't find a link for that.

Look in "my profile".

But be warned, the old view will be going away.

paul wheaton wrote:But be warned, the old view will be going away.

Lame, I'll definitely spend less time here once it does. The new view is super annoying to use on my desktop, and pretty much unusable on my tablet with a low speed connection, which is where I usually am.

Dillon Nichols wrote:

paul wheaton wrote:But be warned, the old view will be going away.

Lame, I'll definitely spend less time here once it does. The new view is super annoying to use on my desktop, and pretty much unusable on my tablet with a low speed connection, which is where I usually am.

Even though the new view can include the old view?  

https://permies.com/t/57404/tnk/modify-home-page

Dillon, if you give me $100,000 to pay people to maintain the old view, I will keep it.

paul wheaton wrote:But be warned, the old view will be going away.

The new view doesn't work well on my computing equipment, or at least not what I'd call "well." But I can imagine maintaining the two different views takes up extra time so it makes sense to go with the one you think works better for you.

chip sanft wrote:

paul wheaton wrote:But be warned, the old view will be going away.

The new view doesn't work well on my computing equipment, or at least not what I'd call "well." But I can imagine maintaining the two different views takes up extra time so it makes sense to go with the one you think works better for you.

Chip, please start a thread and detail the issues.  That way they can all be repaired before the old view goes away.

paul wheaton wrote:

chip sanft wrote:

paul wheaton wrote:But be warned, the old view will be going away.

The new view doesn't work well on my computing equipment, or at least not what I'd call "well." But I can imagine maintaining the two different views takes up extra time so it makes sense to go with the one you think works better for you.

Chip, please start a thread and detail the issues.  That way they can all be repaired before the old view goes away.

Thanks for responding directly, Paul. In order to be specific in formulating a post about this I went back to the current view, which I turned off right after it was first turned on, and started to poke around. I quickly noticed that some things that weren't on there -- or I had overlooked -- when the new format first went live are now there.

So, I take back what I said. I was wrong; the new look has everything I as a fairly longtime user want. Most important though is all the permie goodness that has kept me (and quite a few other people, I notice) coming back for LITERALLY YEARS. Keep on keeping on, permies.com!

I turned off right after it was first turned on, and started to poke around. I quickly noticed that some things that weren't on there -- or I had overlooked -- when the new format first went live are now there.

Yeah.  It was pretty limiting back in the Beta days.
It has matured nicely.  (It took quite a while for me to make the switch also.)

paul wheaton wrote:

Dillon Nichols wrote:

paul wheaton wrote:But be warned, the old view will be going away.

Lame, I'll definitely spend less time here once it does. The new view is super annoying to use on my desktop, and pretty much unusable on my tablet with a low speed connection, which is where I usually am.

Even though the new view can include the old view?  

https://permies.com/t/57404/tnk/modify-home-page

Dillon, if you give me $100,000 to pay people to maintain the old view, I will keep it.

I love this place, but I don't love it $100,000 worth! Duplication of work is not very permie, hopefully with a few more tweaks the new view will be ready for its new role as the ONE VIEW.(to rule them all and in the darkness etc...)

I admit I hadn't seen that linked post yet. It seems like a step in the right direction for sure!


I think that the main problem with using the new view on slow connections is the thumbnails. If it's not the whole problem it's at least a logical starting point.

If I make a single column dashboard I get a lot less pictures; if I make a dashboard with only 'top forums' included, I get no pics at all... there is really no utility to the forum homepage in that configuration, but at least it can load in a timely fashion! For that matter, I could really just skip ever loading the main forum page and go right to 'all forums' or 'recent threads' to get around the pics.

Problem: when I create this thumbnail-free view, and change to it... the change doesn't stick. The default view loads when I load the page again, and I have to select my thumbnail-free view.

Problem: when I load an individual forum ie 'natural building', I am back to the default view again, thumbnail city. Plus, the dropdown to select my custom views is not present.


It looks like some of the other things about the new view that irked me have been addressed in the meantime, perhaps it's time to give it another chance. I'll check things out from my normal slow connection and see how it goes now.

I use recent topics most of the time because it has no thumbnails.  But i like the main forum view if I'm looking for inspiration.

Once again... Start a new Thread about the new features... And then I can direct the developers to look at the thread for any feedback that might help them improve new features...

And I would suggest that you pick a really good title for your new thread that will charm the Developers... Thus helping your requests to be heard.

My only problem with New View is that it runs slowly some days, so that pages don't open. I go straight to Recent Threads and only open threads, so I rarely see the Forums page with the cute thumbnails which are even slower. I have no idea which features are making Recent Threads and the threads themselves so heavy, but if there's any way to lighten it up, that would be helpful for those of us with poor connections.

I understand that now New View is running smoothly for everyone with a fast connection, you would want to stop maintaining Old View.

Rebecca,

One way to change how a web site is displayed, without requiring to the developers to cater to every personal preference or taste, is to learn how to use an ad blocker.  I don't mean to filter out the ads, mine still shows them (currently a bamboo ad), but rather to filter out the page elements you do not want to see (or would slow down page loading).

I have the ublock origin extension installed in the Chrome browser and have set some network filters, and cosmetic filters up.  This can be done by going to the options for it, and editing the filters tab to include entries like the ones I give below.  It can't modify the style of the page, but it can block the site from accessing files (like images) or remove parts of the page after loading, but before it is displayed.

These stop the following images being loaded at all by the browser and make the page look less noisy to me:

cache-www.permies.com/templates/default/betaview/images/header-bg.jpg
cache-www.permies.com/templates/default/betaview/images/middle-bg.jpg

I find that removing the logo is quite nice for compacting the page and making it less noisy, this one is a cosmetic filter though, so the logo will still load (but not display) the first time you load the page:

www.permies.com##.site-header-logo

And this one stops the 99% of the images from displaying on the forum dashboards (it might also stop some other images from displaying, not sure).  It's a network filter, so they won't slow down page loading but will silently fail to be loaded:

permies.com/t/*/i/*.jpg

And finally removing the giant suggestions box at the bottom of the page, to remove more noise that I never use as well (cosmetic filter):

www.permies.com##.fcontent-wrpr

Similarly, it is possible if you know how to remove a lot of the stuff that you have no personal interest in.  Of course, it's limited by how the site is designed to some degree, so not everything can be trimmed away.  And if you find that something is being changed, which you want to see, then you can easily disable the extension for the site and examine and correct the filters.

Thanks Roger,
I certainly do use an adblocker: I wouldn't be able to open this forum or any news sites at all if I didn't. I also set my preferences in Permies.com to hide any page elements that I could. But it looks like you are suggesting some further skills on blocking things. I'll sit down and study your post and see if I can implement any of them, but I'm not sure I understand them. Thank you!

This feature is days away from disappearing:  the old view is about to be axed.