Tanning coyote hides - special considerations?

I'm the kind of person that gets gifted dead animals from time to time, because people know it makes me giddy as a kid on Christmas morning.

Case in point, I woke up to a Facebook message from a friend the other day saying he had left me a coyote hide on my porch. And sure enough...

I've tanned a rabbit with vinegar and alum, and a raccoon with a brain tan mixture, but obviously have no brains to work with on this one. The hide has been fleshed and stretched, and it currently dry and ready to be worked.

I read in this article
 that a pickling salt tan was a good bet, but I also thought of trying a fir bark tan - are there any special considerations with a coyote hide? The fur is on, and the hide seems less greasy than a raccoon's, but slightly thicker than a rabbit's.

My mother used a dilute sulphuric acid (battery acid) process on the wolves and (visually indistinguishable) sled dog hides she would turn into parka ruffs up in the frozen north.  But I was a disinterested teenager and do not remember details of her process, I just remember the extreme caution with which I would decant her acid into glass bottles from the bulk container of the stuff we had for selling in our rural hardware/general store.  

I know a lot of people use battery acid, but I want something a little less toxic, particularly since this will be something my son will have contact with when it's done.

My usual go-to is a brain tan, but that's not an option this time around.

I don't blame you for not wanting to work with battery acid; it's not particularly toxic but it is hard to handle safely.  However, just to be clear for others who might misunderstand: it does need to be neutralized before the tanning process is done, so there isn't any left over in the finished product.  If there was, the finished product would be 100% holes!

Actually, thinking back on it, that's the same deal with other acid forms of tanning - I remember part of the process being to dump a bunch of baking soda in the bucket with the hide and solution to neutralize it, excellent point!

You might want to go with a vegetable tan for that hide.  We use Oak bark (we have them growing on our land) this is a really good source of the tannin.

Wolf says it will take a lot of fir bark compared to the oak bark for a good tan.  Since you brain tan, using a vegetable tan process won't be a big change over.

Redhawk  

you might like this site for information
braintan.com

We actually don't have any oak around here unfortunately.

I wound up doing an acid tan with vinegar and pickling salt, and it appears to have worked quite well. The hide isn't in the best shape, it seems to have been a bit too aggressively stretched and fleshed, and there's some pull through on the fur, but all in all, it's holding up!

I have a bit more breaking to do around the edges, but it's actually stayed soft and flexible, even left hanging on the tree in our yard for a few weeks in the rain - the neatsfoot concoction really seems to have done the trick.

When I get a bit more time I'm going to go around the edges a bit more and soften, but I think this one is about done, pics coming soon!

I appreciate your using something that is already dead, but you may point out that the people killing the coyotes are doing the equivalent of topping a bush, and many more branches (coyotes) will follow.  I guess this is good for you though, but I would see it as a great opportunity to post a bunch of great pyrenees pictures or have some around to show a better (more beautiful and loving) alternative to shooting the coyotes. Here is a video of how it can work  

Then again, wolves are even better for getting rid of coyotes entirely.

Ben Zukisian wrote:I appreciate your using something that is already dead, but you may point out that the people killing the coyotes are doing the equivalent of topping a bush, and many more branches (coyotes) will follow.  I guess this is good for you though, but I would see it as a great opportunity to post a bunch of great pyrenees pictures or have some around to show a better (more beautiful and loving) alternative to shooting the coyotes. Here is a video of how it can work https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=obmBXCzTp2Q

Then again, wolves are even better for getting rid of coyotes entirely.

Oh, the guy killing the coyotes has no concern for the impact he's having on the environment, he just sells the pelts typically. I mean, he gets his tags and (generally) plays by the rules, but ethical and responsible population management is never anywhere on his list. He's kind of a dick if I'm being totally honest.

But, alas, he seems to fancy me. He frequently gives me dead things, like a cat bringing mice to my doorstep    And I'm grateful for the opportunity to at least put some part of this otherwise wasted animal to use and learn a skill like this, so there's that. But I can't help but give him a little bit of grief sometimes - our values are pretty drastically different in this arena. So when he gets a mountain lion, I ask him when he's making mountain lion stew

I understand, and have had similar neighbors and interactions while working in outdoor education.  You are probably making the best of the situation and will have a better impact this way than being all judgy. I get my hugel wood similarly and can't help but feel less angry about the tree being felled when I get to use it.

Sorry to revive an old post. I am just now working my way all the way through these wonderful forums haha. Anyway I have found that any type of pickling solution makes the hair slip. Of ckurse I could be doing it wrong also..... i normally brain tan or on smaller furs like rabbit and squirrel I egg tan. On big hides like deer that I scrape the hair anyway I pickle with salt and vinegar. Also for a source of brains if you have a butcher or meat packaging plant nearby or even a place that does wild game processing brains can normally be had for a few dollars. Just a suggestion

Destiny Hagest wrote:I know a lot of people use battery acid, but I want something a little less toxic, particularly since this will be something my son will have contact with when it's done.

My usual go-to is a brain tan, but that's not an option this time around.

You can bark tan with any tree bark that contains tannin, the standard (because of the quantity of tannin) is oak bark.
To make the tanning solution you boil the bark until the water turns dark then strain out the bark pieces and the liquid is your tanning solution.
The other name bark tanning is known by is Vegetable tanning.
Bark tans are used cold for hides you want the hair to remain on.
The hide will need to soak in the solution for about 6 hours, stir it around once an hour or more frequently if you desire.
Pull it out every so often and turn it so all the hide gets exposed to the bark tan solution evenly.
Once it is finished tanning you can re stretch it for drying.

Redhawk

An article from Furbearers Conservation  on coyote pelt handling. Useful links included.

If skinning has not been done soon enough, the belly of the carcas turns green. If this happens, the hair will fall out of the umm pelt? Hide? So, how would one remove the hair intentionally,  if it's gonna fall out anyway? To turn it into leather?

This is for a thought project... unless our hunter friend is very very successful on this trip.

Oooh! And this green belly condition, would the meat still be good?