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MUST relocate, and rehome my florida food forest, zone 9b....  RSS feed

 
Derrick Clausen
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Hello all whom this may concern! I'm a new guy here and this place is so awesomely immense that I'm struggling to figure where to put what. What I wanted to ask seemed most suitable under "market garden" I guess...

Are you allowed to promote your own nurseries and sell products here? I'm not a nursery yet but in an interesting predicament...

I have a 4-5 year old food forest I have to destruct...I know very, very sad.I have to be uprooted myself and move from my 9b-10 location into a full zone 8a environment. Most of what I grow here cannot go or will be killed if I leave it. See this was supposed to be a permanent place for my family but the home owner decided to sell this property after letting me establish the food forest for nearly 5 years... He wants the yard made back to grass before I go in a short 1-2 month time. I want to find my large in ground trees a home before I go or the land owner will just cut down and kill everything. In light of the move though I need as much cash in hand as possible. I want to sell my fruit trees at a fair price to anyone who will take the chance of moving them elsewhere. Will not kill anyone in price negotiations or anything! Some very nice trees here though. Will make a list in the appropriate area if selling is in fact allowed somewhere here. If worst comes to worst I'd rather see my old babies thrive though too and not die so at the very end I'll give away them to anyone willing to dig them out in my last few days here. I'm in Sarasota, FL.

Please anyone let me know what's acceptable here! I want not make bad impressions or break any rules. That's why I'm here to ask!

Please contact me if interested! Thank y'all so much and what a totally awesome website! I plan to become a big name here someday! My new homestead once I'm there is gonna be epic!

Derrick
 
Deb Rebel
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Hi. It was moved it to where people look for stuff. If you'd be so kind as to add what you have, and when it has to be moved/claimed/out-of-there, we'll see if someone in your area can help you out. If you add a few pictures, that would be really great too.

[type your text into a reply, then below the type-in box you'll see a tab 'attachments', Click that. It will let you find and attach the pictures you want, one at a time. You can also give each picture a caption at the time you select it. When done, hit 'submit']

Some things you may be able to take with you if you establish microclimates in your new place. I have been able to go a grow zone and a half, by careful placement to buildings or other large masses, strategic windbreak from winter winds, mulching heavily for fall plus wrapping a plant for the coldest weather. Some things you can reestablish into large planters with caster bases so you can wheel something in for the winter. (I had two hibiscus, one a single red, one a double pink, about 7' tall in 18" pots. They got lugged in every fall (zone 4b) and out every spring. The double pink only bloomed indoors, the red, only outdoors... I would make sure to time watering so they were dry but not wilting at Lug-and-Grunt time. Then right after, water them]

If you miss palms, there are some trunkless that will survive to 4b (they can grow them as far as Ohio), trunked there's a few at 7a-b to 8a-b that will make it. It just takes for being more creative in your gardening. Bummer about your landlord letting you do all that work, then telling you you have to leave and get rid of that work.

(edit to add) Yes we have places for people to sell stuff straight out, it's called 'Blatant Advertising' but there's also some awesome ways to do so. When you get into the nursery business it can be sorted.
 
Derrick Clausen
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Thanks y'all for the replies! I will start posting up pics of some of the large trees and bushes probably by tomorrow afternoon. I'll list a few things now so y'all know what kinda stuff to expect.

Large Inga tree aka ice cream bean 20-12ft tall
Large black mulberry tree 15' tall
Orinoco banana trees many some large
Ice cream banana large tree and good sized pups(do wanna keep a pup or two)
Sugar cane
Star cherry bush
Black Suriname cherry bush
Good sized loquat tree
Small canistel tree
Tons of cassava cuttings and potted plants
Tons of potted chaya plants
Potted African potato mint plants
Two coffee trees potted good sized
Rooted Fo-Ti vine sections
Good sized tamarind trees
Good sized Moringa trees
Tons of cranberry hibiscus plants
Calea zacatechichi large bush
Pineapple plants
Piper lolot
Black pepper plants

Lots, lots more...

Feel bad that I asked to do this here. At least I guess it was OK. Mainly really just wanna save the in ground stuff. The potted stuff is easier to move if necessary albeit its 7 hours from my current location. Not gonna be able to protect much the first winter season though with a ton of tropicals where it can get 15°f. Most stuff must go. Gotta hold onto at least a small potted plant of each thing like longevity spinach and such right?!
 
Derrick Clausen
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Wanted to address the info you were providing Mrs. Deb. Thanks for sharing your knowledge!

Yes ma'am I will be trying to push the boundaries of tropical species once I'm ready. I'd love to take my Pickering mango but I think I'm gonna leave it behind for now. Maybe someday get another. However I'm gonna take some marginal stuff for sure. White sapote, strawberry guava, etc.

I won't give up entirely with tropicals! Darn it I want papayas and mangos! Too bad Nom Doc get so big! Pickering is good though. Thai golden dwarf papaya I may take a few with me. Definitely gonna seasonally grow cranberry hibiscus and Roselle etc. I know too I can push chaya and cassava that far. I'm glad my exotic gingers can all go with! Pineapples will be straight potted and brought indoors. I love pineapples and have a good collection of rare types I want not to part with! Mad that I'm l have to give up my panama cherries and such though...

Its all good though. In five plus more years I'll have a garden beyond insanity! Panhandle here I come!

Derrick

 
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Hi Derek. I think it's important that you place an ad that is very specific about your location. I'm guessing you might be in the Florida Keys. Potential customers are going to be close by, due to the types of plants and moving costs.

Along with all of the online resorces such as here and Craigslist, you might want to contact local gardening clubs and possibly a nursery or landscapers who maintain their own nursery. If you're planning to have a yard sale, to clear out household items, be sure to include the plants in your advertising.
 
Derrick Clausen
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Thanks man!

I'm in Sarasota, FL. I am doing craigslist too. So far I've gotten a few things a new home. Had to dig up and say bye to my cherimoya tree yesterday evening. Glad the Lady is gonna give it a good home though! She was from Peru and missed having that fruit here.

Pics of some stuff later! Stay tuned
 
Deb Rebel
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I have been moving to warmer grow zones over the years. I would hate having to move colder than my current 6b, going from 9b would be especially hard as there are many things that will grow in that zone I'd dearly love to have. However this nice little affordable corner of here, is where I'll end up staying.

Consider building a LARGE walipini, that would allow you to push your zone to where you could keep some of that again. I will have citrus as soon as I finish the first one, I swear.

List your stuff everywhere, even bulletin boards with tear tags. Leave no place behind. A lot of places have public post-it areas, you may have to ask to get it approved or give it to them to hang. Home centers, tractor/farm supply, etc. Grocery stores.
 
Liz Hoxie
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Take cuttings of the loquat tree. I know for a fact there was one behind a bank on the Gulf Coast (8b). Mulch heavily when it's in the ground. Research each one of your plants and see how to "push the envelope". Good luck.
 
Derrick Clausen
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Sorry it took so long to get back here!

Yes Mrs. Liz loquat does grow there! I have a bunch of seedlings I'm gonna take with me. There is one loquat already on the property albeit in poor condition. I will be able to start sheet mulching around it and hopefully cause a spike in health and growth.

I've decided on the fruiting trees that still remain that if any prospective person wants them for just the help of digging them out they are free for the taking except only the bananas and pickering mango. Those two should survive transplant easily but anything questionable that it may live is free for helping me get them out. This includes papayas, Brazilian cherry, pomelo, mulberry, avocados, larger mango, guava, loquat, star cherry, Suriname cherry, Moringa, passion vines, and a canistel.

Wish I had gotten pics up already! Sorry about that but its been an inundating experience trying to find homes and get this stuff outta here. Craigslist peeps coming left and right!

Tons of cassava and chaya cuttings available! Cuttings of any of my other stuff and or the plants themselves at nominal fees! Wanna be done and just get on with starting over. 5+ years of food forest is not only an accomplishment to make but to also get back out lol.

Derrick
 
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Well... If I lived closer I'd be right there... Just a bit to far...
 
Miles Flansburg
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Derrick, I do not know how far away Pete Kanaris is from you but you might want to contact him and see if he would help you out.  Green Dreams Florida

He was featured on justin rhodes' Great American farm tour and understands permaculture.
 
Derrick Clausen
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Thank y'all! I'm familiar with Pete's work but never met him. Watched a lot of his videos! Most stuff has found homes fortunately though.

However the small stuff I thought why not trade some off for new stuff for my zone 8a location. Stuff I have that ships well includes:

Brazilian spinach
Longevity spinach
Katuk
Cassava(3 kinds)
Dragon fruit(many kinds)
Sweet potato(many kinds)
Black mulberry
Fo-Ti vines
Rooted pineapple tops
Many herbs of all sorts culinary
Cranberry hibiscus
Variegated and regular Cuban oregano
Rooted A. anisopetala vines pieces
Chaya
Rooted passion vines fruiting and non fruiting
Pineapple verbena aka mounjean tea
Calea zacatechichi rooted pieces
Galangal ginger rhizomes
Arrowroot rhizomes
Canna edulis rhizomes

All are unrooted cuttings if not stated different
 
Laura Zurro
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Wish I lived closer to you   I'm due east of you on the other coast.  You've got a lot of cool stuff that would grow well in my just barely started yard and I'd be there in a split second to get some of your plants. Have you connected with the permaculture group in the Tampa/St. Pete area?
 
Derrick Clausen
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Thanks for the reply! Sorry took so long to get back!

Never got connected with the Tampa/St. Pete area group though I had met some people whom were.

Finally made it here and am mostly settled in! Getting here with little home produce now since its a start over kinda thing. Will take time to regrow gardens like I had down in central FL. However north FL  here I am! Trying to decide where to pop in the temperate stuff I had like peach trees and mulberries. All new territory here with lots of room aside from some huge pine trees shading parts here and there more densely than I would like for planting of food bearing trees. Over time will have to thin them and process into borders or hugel beds etc.

If there's anyone out here in the Wewahitchka, FL area that wants to swap fruit trees and such eventually leave a reply here. Will take time to get up and going but plan to raise animals and have abundant produce to share/trade. Will need to make connections for grass fed goat or cow milks if anyone's around. Wild meats and home grown organic goods I am always willing to consider trading for!

Thanks!
 
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