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Hello everyone! I'm new to this forum and website in general. I have a dream of building my own tiny house, and eventually a homestead, or self sustained home. I'm increasingly disappointed in the direction society as whole is headed. I am deeply concerned for my fellow americans who not only embrace the androcentric concept that women are weaker, but deserve to be treated with disrespect and downright hostility. Same for people of color. ALL humans have the right to be treated with respect and have the same chances. It's extremely disheartening to watch everyone salivating over, well, STUFF. Some come from money and have even advantage. Some have nothing and build it up themselves. One thing remains the same. All that matters is how much money or unnecessary shit you have. I'm not that way. I just can't think like that. I don't believing in starving the pack for the good of one. I don't care about what everyones wearing. I don't care about the latest gadgets and screens to stare at. I believe in working hard and being content with what I have. I believe in making $ to provide a life for myself. Not some corporation or company. I don't want to eat their mass produced poison anymore. I'm tired of having my free creative spirit CRUSHED people with good intentions. I'm tired of living the life THEY live, and thereby believe is right for everyone. It's not. I need an escape from the GREED. From the HYPOCRISY. From the JEALOUSY. GLUTTONY. And from the LAZINESS Americans have all become INFECTED with. Ultimately my goal to leave this country! So if you're located abroad, don't be discouraged, please! Let's chat! I don't have a lot of time to write right now, so for now this will have to do!
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Hi from Germany,

you speak out of my Soul - only here it is all Germans not Americans that do the same sh* may be in a light Version of it, may be differently but at the end it is all the same But please welcome here
 
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Hi Teea,


I really appreciate your passionate sharing. Your thoughts definitely coincide with many of mine.

Its been an interesting (to say the least) awakening within myself when realizing that I want to have a homestead life. Nothing note worthy outside of my own mind, in my life, has necessarily happened that caused this realization. Its a combination of whats going on in the world (everywhere, actually), how people are being horrible to each other, and like you spoke about, money and stuff. And also how the government can't keep their nose out of everyones business, and (seemingly) wants to control everyone.

I have stuff. I'm sure we all do to some extent. Most of my stuff is either kept for sentimental reasons (my brain seems to work that way), and for usefulness. Only a certain amount of it is frivolous. I've been trying hard reduce my possessions. The sentimentality is the toughest part when deciding what's to go, and how (ie: sell, give away, recycle, trash).

Women...well said. I agree with you.
It doesn't matter to me who, man or woman, does the thing that needs to be done as long as they are able to do to it to the best of their ability.
I like a feminine, strong woman. I would consider myself sensitive (which seems like a curse most of the time) and tough when need to be. But I also know the value of partnership. And honestly, I prefer it to being single (but would never be paired up with someone just to avoid being single). I like being with someone (compatible, of course). Knowing that we're there for each other. No matter what shit rains down from striking which fan.

I agree with what you said about money and greed. It terrible. That saying...money is the root of all evil...I never really, deeply felt it was. Now I do. The saying is so very accurate and true. It like saying to a superhero "use your power for good" and "with great power comes great responsibility". Most people who have boatloads of money don't seem to understand that...at all. The more money they have, the more they screw with people, and mess up the world. I won't even go into climate change here or I'll be typing for days.


It would be great to connect with you, of course that is if you're open to that. Even if we end making a new friend, thats cool too.


~Xyon
 
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Good on ya! Getting out of this rat race is probably among the more noble aspirations I come across on a daily basis. I'd be happy to be friends with you. And welcome to permies! What countries do you like? I've always fancied moving away, but I'm not really cultured and haven't really pondered cool places to set up shop. Although there are lots of beautiful places I'd love to live: New Zealand, Ecuador, Wyoming... Also, I'm happy to share that in my experience no matter where you go, you tend to meet the same types of people, so if escaping is your goal, you'd do better buying a plot of forested beauty near you and working a backwoods paradise. You'll be equally likely to making something you love as with moving. Feel free to PM me if you ever want to chat.
 
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I am moving from Cali onto my 20 acre lot in Sierra Blanca Texas. You are welcome to come try and homestead with me. I'll be there Sept 1st.  -Simon     760 910 5083
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Your philosophical points resonate a lot with me as I'm sure they do with the majority of members of this community. 

Mindfulness describes three things to avoid: greed, hate, and delusion.  The second one, hate, is in fact broader than that word, and includes anger and fear.  Delusion is my favorite of these - if a person is successful in avoiding delusion, well, we are funneled into truth. 

Jon Kabat-Zinn is a leader in this area, having developed mindfulness in a clinical setting to treat people with chronic pain not well managed with drugs in Boston hospitals.  That reduces the BS component.  Meditation - lots of it - is at the core of the method, so it is more about doing and not that much about talking.   The reason for meditation is to gain control of our thought processes, to discipline emotional processes.  For instance, one may be frustrated and angered by the raping of the planet (and other things) but that anger is pointless.  A calm mind helps in accepting the reality and acting effectively to oppose the trend and build something sheltered from the madnesses.  Drawing heavily from Buddhism, mindfulness is not a religion. 

The book Full Catastrophe Living is a great introduction, but his voice communicates better and the practice of meditation with CD feels like driving the car rather than just looking at it (the book), recommend CD entitled "Mindfulness for beginners".  He is very entertaining, does not ask you to 'believe' anything, and admires Zorba the Greek.  Listen to sample: https://www.amazon.com/Mindfulness-Beginners-Reclaiming-Present-Moment-and/dp/1622036670/ref=la_B000AQ12GA_1_3?s=books&ie=UTF8&qid=1502119486&sr=1-3

I've lived on my ridge in the Alleghenies for a decade now and I look for someone who would appreciate the fruits of my labor and protect and nurture the homestead into the future.  For instance, I have planted / am planting walnut, paw-paw, Cornelian cherry, Siberian pine (nuts), pagoda and scarlet oak, kiwis, persimmon, chokecherry, plums, woodbine, beach plums, sequoias, etc., so many different nitrogen fixers, most of which will not yield fruit in my lifetime, and my adult children have no interest.  It would make a great 'pick your own' operation to be comfortably self-sustaining.  My nightmare is that some nut will buy the place and raze it for pulp.  Natural Resources Defense Council has a program for succession.  Ambivalent about NRDC as opposed to a personal connection, my point is that probably a lot of us homesteaders face the challenge of succession. 

So I think your post is right on target.
 
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Hi, Teea. I agree on all points and I think it is great that you speak out against greed and discrimination. I have a 5 acre homestead in Idaho that is semi-established. Fruit trees and berries are productive and a large garden, small ponds and a well that I'm improving. I've built two tiny houses here and there is room for one more possibly. I would like to chat with you. I am very new to this site and not aware of how do to anything like that yet! I'm looking for helper/partner/friends in gardening and homesteading. I'm starting to sell seeds through a local organic seed coop and with the improvements to the well there will be more gardening and good work to do. It is beautiful evergreen forest here. Hope we can figure out how to chat, George.
 
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Hi Teea,  I can feel your passion for change, and am interested to chat

Have a beautiful Day,

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Great that you are putting yourself out there like that, Teea; you explain what you don't want and what you want pretty well.

  If I were you, I would not be so adamant that you must leave the U.S. to find what you need.  There are plenty of great people, farms, communities in the U.S. for you to connect with.  I'm not saying that you shouldn't travel and get to visit other countries and potentially find your place there, but... I guess what I am saying is that while the U.S. is one of the driving forces of the cultural gluttony that you are speaking of, by joining the movement that is changing that direction (from within the heart of the proverbial and- to some- literal beast itself), you may actually make a bigger impact in the global direction than you might initially perceive. 

Most countries have a level of corruption and a distance from ecology inherent in their cultures/industries, and as a result you may be searching for an ideal that doesn't fully exist.  I know that I searched for a long time for my place to be/property, and really when it came down to it there were a lot of places that I could have settled, had I really initiated it and put the focus on.  The problem was that I was really picky and I had a lot of trouble making up my mind to decide.  

All that aside, I now have nearly paid for 40 acres of south facing paradise on the western edge of the Canadian Rockies that I am just beginning to develop permaculturally, with epic wilderness in the backyard, and postcard views of the Caribou mountains across a large river valley in the front yard, and you'd be welcome to come and check it out, and put in some seeds and see what happens.  There's a school bus you could stay in.  I have had a couple of wwoofers but have not put much focus on getting help here yet, besides my parents who rent the house next door with me.   There are lots of interesting people around, and travelers coming through.  The winter can be a bit daunting to some, but the wild berries make up for it!

You might want to check out WWOOFing, as it is a great way to travel, to meet interesting people/farms/communities, and to potentially find where you want to be.

Good luck on your search.  It might not seem like it all the time, but in the end you always get out of it what you put into it.  
 
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Teea Sechrist wrote:Hello everyone! I'm new to this forum and website in general. I have a dream of building my own tiny house, and eventually a homestead, or self sustained home. I'm increasingly disappointed in the direction society as whole is headed. I am deeply concerned for my fellow americans who not only embrace the androcentric concept that women are weaker, but deserve to be treated with disrespect and downright hostility. Same for people of color. ALL humans have the right to be treated with respect and have the same chances. It's extremely disheartening to watch everyone salivating over, well, STUFF. Some come from money and have even advantage. Some have nothing and build it up themselves. One thing remains the same. All that matters is how much money or unnecessary shit you have. I'm not that way. I just can't think like that. I don't believing in starving the pack for the good of one. I don't care about what everyones wearing. I don't care about the latest gadgets and screens to stare at. I believe in working hard and being content with what I have. I believe in making $ to provide a life for myself. Not some corporation or company. I don't want to eat their mass produced poison anymore. I'm tired of having my free creative spirit CRUSHED people with good intentions. I'm tired of living the life THEY live, and thereby believe is right for everyone. It's not. I need an escape from the GREED. From the HYPOCRISY. From the JEALOUSY. GLUTTONY. And from the LAZINESS Americans have all become INFECTED with. Ultimately my goal to leave this country! So if you're located abroad, don't be discouraged, please! Let's chat! I don't have a lot of time to write right now, so for now this will have to do!

 
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