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Gel water - H3O2 - How to grow water for real hydration!  RSS feed

 
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H3O2 is viscous water. I have found out very important informations, and they are linked to the natural world we cherish!

All plants have this form of water inside them, and we have it in our cells too. If we just drink water, we can eliminate too much and still feel not very well hydrated.

Desert plant have developped this gel water even better than any plant, as their gel is a very obvious solid gel! Chia seeds make gel too. Desert dwellers were drinking this plant water, and you drink less and get more hydration!

In a nut shell, to get this type of water and get really hydrated:

- use skin and bones to make gelatine and drink a lot of it.
- use ghee, coconut oil and cacao butter.
- Use infrared and sun.
- Ground and walk barefoot.
- If you can, use aloe vera gel or any cactus gel. Even prickly pears fruits make a gel when they are crushed for filtering the seeds.
- If you stand it, use some chia reduced in powder, in liquids for jelly. Or linseeds. Make your own and do not keep it ground.
- Make smoothies
- Use lemons.

If you want to know more, here is an article:
https://goop.com/wellness/health/structured-water-youve-been-doing-it-wrong-why-youre-still-dehydrated/

And a TED talk:



 
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These are really interesting potential areas of science.  I often will walk outside on grass barefoot, and it seems to make me feel better. There is some data in these areas, but in my opinion, it is not yet established science.  That doesn't stop me from doing it. Stephen Sinatra, MD, has written a book about earthing-walking barefoot on bare earth or grass to connect electrically with the earth.

Gerald Pollack is a professor at the University of Washington who is doing some intersting experiments in these areas.

I have heard others talk about how liquids from fruits and vegetables can make our bodies feel more hydrated than water. It is an interesting area of study.

I like chia pudding. It apparently has omega 3's and it is therefore going to be useful for vegans/vegetarians that way.

I would love to see more documented research in these areas.  I don't see any problem with trying them while we are awaiting more empirical validation. 

I use many of them myself.
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Intriguing thread/ideas Xisca.  I have to agree completely with John's assessment of it's subject.  

There is a lot of interesting information being put out on the internet (including Ted Talks) that sound logical and real, but may not be. 

I agree that there is likely something to the basic greater theory being presented:  That natural gels act to enhance water storage--> I understand, for instance, that natural gels [created in the wastes and decaying bodies of microbes] are one of the reasons that compost holds moisture so well.    When searching, I have found no verification that plants change water to this H3O2 molecule for this or any other purpose.  I understand that desert plants specifically, and other plants also, have gels, and the thinking is that the plants need these to aid themselves to hold/store water, but whether they allow water to be somehow better, through the manipulation of it's molecular structure, I can't seem to find any body of information about.  While there is some promotion of this idea and products, I can't seem to find any studies that verify it. The lady in the Ted Talk does not offer any links to hers or other studies.  Perhaps there are some studies to that effect that someone can help us with?  

Science is like that, though,... sometimes it takes time for hypothesis and controlled experimentation to catch up with the anecdotal information or the uncontrolled reality that we witness/experience day to day. 

Like John, I follow many of these ideas that you mention in this thread, Xisca, with or without scientific verification, but when it is stated as a fact and I can find no information about it, and with only a Ted Talk to back it up, I have to raise my eyebrows and wonder a bit.  Perhaps I'm just a bit too much of a skeptic to read such claims without expecting to see more empirical information.  

When it comes to the term 'Structured' water, there are a lot of different ideas that have this label.  Some of these have been debunked and others seem questionable scientifically, but I have not found anything specifically about H3O2 as being called structured water outside of this Ted Talk/thread, or as mentioned, what effect gel based water has directly on our water needs.
 
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I'm a bit confused by the term 'water' in this context.

We have official water - which is H2O or sometimes called HOH. 

I recently learned that there is more than one type of water (h2o)

There are also different things called water.  These are usually qualified with a word preceding 'water'.  Like Heavy Water (D2O), Mineral Water (which has loads of different molecules in it), flavoured water (ibid), bottled water (ibid), tree water (sap - very popular in the shops here), or bleach water (H2O2). 

Is this Gel Water like that? It's not technically H2O, but instead, it uses the word 'water' in the vernacular sense?
 
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Thanks for those thoughtful answers!

Actually, I got these ideas on my own BEFORE reading anything! So it just stikes me to find some sort of confirmation!
I have had 2 pathways....

1) growing in a dry place. People here could get a crop of potatoes even with no rain, just burriying prickly pears pads / or cutting them in 2 and covering the row with the jelly side on the soil : watering...
Actually, I do not mind the exact composition, it is enough to see what is jelly for, and I have had chia seeds sprouting in my kitchen sponge!

2) Personal search around my personal "fluid trauma". It has affected my health and nervous system, but then discovered it went further and had deeper consequences for my metabolism, at cell level.
It becomes obvious with the years: I am deshydrated. And no way to drink more, I just pee more... and I still feel dry and thirsty.

And it happens that a basic metabolism is producing - like a fire when burning - water and CO2. This is where I miss the water source...

So appart from going to a ketogenic diet, I have looked at ways to hydrate better, and used all those tips I mentionned!

About heavy water, yes too I have heard about it, and more interresting for health seem to be light water, aka DDW, deuterium depleted water. The biggest advocate is Jack Kruse about this subject. I think it is unsustainable to import bottles of DDW, but he consideres that gelatine broth is having the same effect, which correspond to the next informations I have found...

RESULT:
It is difficult to maintain on an everyday basis, as I clearly go up to 3 liters per day, but I already had moment when I slept better with no pee at night + no leg cramping! Being close to zero carb, I do not think it is diabetes, and I am not really thirsty, so I can forget easily to drink. But I have a dry mouth and my tongue shows the chinese medicine sign of a line in its center, indicating dehydration.
It happens that if i go up too much in butter consumtion, the rest fails, because I have to correct the vagus nerve balance for being in a good rest and digest state and produce more of those digestive "fluids"!

As my problem started before birth, I can see clearly my tastes. Gelatine dishes were always a favorite, and oats porridge (before I stopped gluten and then starches) and all sort of wet gelatinous stuffs too.

The meeting of soil health and my health is so similar that I am sure there is something there....

 
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I thin some more data already exists about hydrogen rich water....
https://hydrogensportsmedicine.com/
If they try to ADD hydrogen into water, then if there is some natural way to obtain this water.... maybe a reason why some people get good results with juicing?
 
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