T. Joy wrote:
It is just as ridiculous to throw out the wisdom of our ancestors as it is to forgo all modern inventions and conveniences. Why would anyone want to do either of those things?
Jocelyn Campbell wrote:
Along those lines, lots of FaceBook folks were posting this today to say how mainstream permaculture is getting due to NY Times exposure:
I haven't taken the time to read it, but I do think more press, more information, is a good thing.
And hügel - Martenson's Crash Course was very enlightening to me - good link.
Thanks - want another one ?
I made a separate topic out of the NYT article before I read your entry; I hope that's okay.
Just a short rant: Whenever I try to explain the benefits of permaculture gardening and applying it to the rest of your life people think I'm being a luddite. They claim its another fringe attempt by the "green movement" to go back to the olden days of how people lived in the 1800s.
This also happens when discussing organic gardening or anything else related to a sustainable lifestyle. No, I don't want to return to the 1800s. Though I really don't think it was as bad as the mainstream tries to make it out, but I realize that there were serious disadvantages. There was no good old days. We need to use the organic and sustainable methods available to us in the 21st century to create a good "old" future. To create a lifestyle that allows people to work much less, use energy efficiently, create close communities that eliminate need for driving, and get rid of chemicals period.
Thats the future I am talking about. The "good old days" are only a basis for what the world may be like after oil is gone or how we can live in a more resourceful world. No one actually wants to go back there.
Jeanine Gurley wrote:
Well, I'm a woman so it's not hard to figure out I wouldn't want to go back in time. My mother and grandmothers had a hard 'row to hoe'. They, and others like them, paved the way for me.
I am also glad that they passed a lot of thier wisdom about the old ways to me. So I feel I have the best of both worlds.
Jocelyn Campbell wrote:
It is my hope, my wish, my dream that we can use simple things like adjusting our food to improve our well-being and then be grateful that we have modern medicine - yes, even steroid creams to relieve suffering - for when the simple things don't work.
John Polk wrote:
To me, a classic example of old technology/wisdom that worked well was the profession of "chicken incubator" that existed in 19th Century Egypt. A farmer would take 4 eggs to the incubator (a human, not a machine), and be given 3 chicks in exchange. The "incubator" had a large building that was carefully controlled for heat/humidity. If the incubator could not achieve 75% hatch rate, he would quickly be out of business. His only profit was the 4th egg hatching.
If any modern, manufactured incubator could guarantee 75% hatch rates, they would most likely drive the other manufacturers off of the market!