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Summary
Paul sits down with some of his patreons (Julia, Katie, and Mark) to talk about an essay written by Derrek Jensen that became a precursor to Paul’s Building a Better World in your Backyard.
“And we shouldn’t pretend that solar photovoltaics, for example, exempt us from this: they still require mining and transportation infrastructures at every point in the production processes; the same can be said for every other so-called green technology” - Derrek
“I guess my approach is to make a long, long list of stuff that people can do themselves, in their back yard. Or in their house. Or on their homestead. And I hope to connect these ideas to millions of people. And I hope like minded people also share oodles of bits and bobs for others to do and they also connect those ideas to millions of people. And those millions tell millions more. And these ideas start to make their way to industry, because industry is loaded to the gills with people. Further still, with a lot of these ideas I like to attach the word "permaculture". I hope that people will hear the word enough that they will think of looking toward permaculture to find a huge catalog of good ideas to explore.” - Paul
Julia points out that Derrek’s beliefs rely on nearly everyone being basically good and generous, whilst Paul’s acknowledges that not everyone will follow his path, but allows those that do to shine and attract anyone who wants a cheaper, more luxuriant life to follow along. As a kind of proof of not everyone being nice, permaculture seems to attract such people to such concentration that about 1 in 10 members of the community are just around to cause problems and Paul had to address this in one of the pods a little way back.
Relevant Threads
Derrick Jensen: Forget Shorter Showers - Why personal change does not equal political change
Derrick Jensen "personal change vs. political change" - Paul's response
Building a Better World in your Backyard by Paul Wheaton and Shawn Klassen-Koop
Podcast 592 - Permaculture Smackdown 21 - Haters Gonna Hate - Part 1
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