Permies Poll: How do you prefer to hold up your pants?

I'll massage the wording for better clarity.

I am a woman, so I have a waist. I like to wear trousers (pants) that have an elastic waist-band or a drawstring there where my waist is. And I like those trousers to be not too tight fitting, so even when I bend down, the waist-band stays at my waist.

Added note: for gardening work I like 'coveralls', the kind of suit that covers all my other clothes. It has several advantages (keeps clothes clean, can be worn over as much or as little clothes as needed in every season).

Inge Leonora-den Ouden wrote:Added note: for gardening work I like 'coveralls', the kind of suit that covers all my other clothes. It has several advantages (keeps clothes clean, can be worn over as much or as little clothes as needed in every season).

I was surprised to read a couple women in this thread decrying that their coveralls don't fit them well.  A lot of women wear coveralls; there must be companies selling them in women's sizes, no?

Yup. But, that doesn't mean they fit right.

Matthew Nistico wrote:

Inge Leonora-den Ouden wrote:Added note: for gardening work I like 'coveralls', the kind of suit that covers all my other clothes. It has several advantages (keeps clothes clean, can be worn over as much or as little clothes as needed in every season).

I was surprised to read a couple women in this thread decrying that their coveralls don't fit them well.  A lot of women wear coveralls; there must be companies selling them in women's sizes, no?

I think they are sold in women's sizes too. But I made my own.

Matthew Nistico wrote:

Inge Leonora-den Ouden wrote:Added note: for gardening work I like 'coveralls', the kind of suit that covers all my other clothes. It has several advantages (keeps clothes clean, can be worn over as much or as little clothes as needed in every season).

I was surprised to read a couple women in this thread decrying that their coveralls don't fit them well.  A lot of women wear coveralls; there must be companies selling them in women's sizes, no?

Maybe it's a matter of body shapes, ie: curves? I'm a "pear shape" which is a nice phrase that means big hips & rear-end. In order to fit my hips without being too tight, I'd need a large size, so for example if I bought something called XL then the hips might fit but the waist and top might be too large & floppy. And/or they might be too long.
Then there's the issue of any jumpsuit-type thing and peeing. You have to pull the whole thing down, which is awkward and annoying. Footsie pajamas seem like fun but not in the middle of the night when it's cold and you have to be almost naked just to pee.

Kim Wills wrote:

Matthew Nistico wrote:

Inge Leonora-den Ouden wrote:Added note: for gardening work I like 'coveralls', the kind of suit that covers all my other clothes. It has several advantages (keeps clothes clean, can be worn over as much or as little clothes as needed in every season).

I was surprised to read a couple women in this thread decrying that their coveralls don't fit them well.  A lot of women wear coveralls; there must be companies selling them in women's sizes, no?

Maybe it's a matter of body shapes, ie: curves? I'm a "pear shape" which is a nice phrase that means big hips & rear-end. In order to fit my hips without being too tight, I'd need a large size, so for example if I bought something called XL then the hips might fit but the waist and top might be too large & floppy. And/or they might be too long.
Then there's the issue of any jumpsuit-type thing and peeing. You have to pull the whole thing down, which is awkward and annoying. Footsie pajamas seem like fun but not in the middle of the night when it's cold and you have to be almost naked just to pee.

Yes, overalls or jumpsuits and peeing, that's the big problem! Of course there is the thing we (women) can use to 'pee like a man', but I don't like that. So indeed, the whole thing must be pulled down.

Whatever shape your body is, making your own fitting pattern and sewing your own overalls (or other garment) is the best solution. It's a skill you can learn.

Women’s coveralls and peeing:

Wow! As a man I hadn’t considered the inconvenience for women who need to take a leak. The first thing that jumped to mind was something akin to coveralls with a ‘trap door’ similar to what some long johns have but, alas, that presupposes your under-things have similar provisions

Considering what a pain coveralls can be getting on and off, perhaps separate tops and bottoms might be a viable option

Last vote in apple poll was on May 11, 2026