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What positive changes are you looking forward to as outcomes of the USA 2024 presidential election?

 
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Christopher Weeks wrote:Sure, but in a world where "unjust or prejudicial distinction" is the norm, putting one's thumb on the scale a little helps to make things more just. Obviously, the devil is in the details and if certain programs are destructive, they should be tuned to produce the outcomes that are actually desirable.



It sounds to me like the "thumb on the scale of justice" is a renaming of the fallacy of appeal to worse problems.  

It could go like this; The issue of discriminatory protections actually becoming discriminatory actions is less of a problem because the big problem is that we allegedly have a norm of unjust or prejudicial distinction.

Seems like there ought to be a way to address both without the thumb on the scale. I do not think a little discrimination now to help eliminate discrimination in the future is a sound concept.
 
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I'm on board! When you come up with a better plan, I'm all ears. Until then, how about we don't just settle for the racist, sexist, ablest status quo? I'm not too interested in letting the perfect be the enemy of the good.
 
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Christopher Weeks wrote: how about we don't just settle for the racist, sexist, ablest status quo?



Yes. Personal action and responsibility would be the best solution, if your in a position of authority at your job.

I have tried coaching my hens, but they still fall back to their old ways. They are very discriminatory. My rabbits seem to do better than the hens with no coaching.
 
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r ranson wrote:

... but I think it's more likely those people saying "don't buy American" will have a place in the sun for about 5 minutes and then everything will go right back to the status quo.  



In the past (because the history of the usa is interesting and we have been here several times before), the Boycott USA movement lasts as long as the Americans First movement does.

They are two sides of the same blade.  



Still going strong.  Getting stronger.  

Strong enough that mr trump noticed and isn't happy about it.  
https://www.cbc.ca/news/politics/hoekstra-canadians-mean-nasty-1.7590636
https://www.ctvnews.ca/vancouver/article/us-boycotts-clearly-having-impact-bc-premier-says-following-ambassadors-remarks/

Reading more history books lately and I was wrong before.  The Buy Canadian movement lasts about 6years after the threat is ended.  

Part of that is because it saves money once the supply chains have rattled into position.  Many Canadian groceries and supplies are now significantly cheaper than the usa counterparts.  And cheaper than pre 2025 levels.  That turned out to be a positive change.
 
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So, almost a year later, thoughts?

Is this the direction hoped for when he was elected?
 
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I know some people voted for Trump because he warned us that Harris would attack Iran and that’s obviously something we needed to avoid.
 
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I'm pleased that the buy local moment is stronger than it's ever been in canada.  

The percentage of made in canada goods available in the shops has more than doubled in the last year.  It's provided the chance to try new products that  I haven't seen before.  A lot of them taste or work better.

It is also helping to breath life into the local repair movement.   Wheras less than two years ago, repair shop after repair shop were closing, now they reopen again and have lenghty wait lists.   Local reddit has daily posts of people asking where they can get parts to fix...or where can they learn the skills to build...

I've been recruited to give free textile lessons all summer at a local museum.  Everything from "how to get that 100 year old sewing machine running tickityboo" to how to process wool the easy way.  And even more exciting events.  I might have to start making yt videos again it's so exciting what the locals are doing and how many people are excited to learn these old skills.  The museum is currently building us one new building and considering a second.  Because the interest in textiles making and repair is so high thanks to international events.

And then there is gardening.  Wowzers.  It's like 1942 all over again.  Even more people interested in food plants in canada than 2020/21 when we had that massive seed shortage.

Maybe it's the bias of seeing the news from the international side of things.  But I did not expect the politics of a nation we largely ignore to have so much positive influence on our local permaculture style projects.

Although I am kind of looking forward to the day i can read the local news and not have two out of three stories be about international issues any more.  Local news is supposed to be about lost puppies and current concerts and stuff.
 
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