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Growing grape vines from seed

 
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I bought some scuppernongs at the farmers market last week, and they're really good. Grown by a local chemical-free farmer here in Tennessee, I thought this would be an excellent variety to grow on my farm. I did a little reading on the internets, and it appears I'll need to stratify the seeds before they will germinate. Information sources say that having the seeds in some damp peat moss, for example, and in the fridge for 3 months or more, will stratify them. They then suggest sowing the seeds in small pots, growing for a year, then transplanting.

I'm thinking if I can determine where I want my grape vines to grow, I can sow these seeds later this fall and they can stratify in the ground over the winter and germinate when the conditions are just right for them, whatever that may be.

Has anyone started grape vines from seeds?
 
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James, I have a bunch of volunteer grapes. Hundreds probably. The birds planted them. I doubt they stratified in peat! I would just put them where you want them. If you want to simulate a birds GI tract, maybe an acid treatment. I have some 30% acetic acid which would probably work. Also kills stuff on my paving stones too!
 
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I bet that would work good James.

I've had a lot of muscadine volunteers come up under my vines. They drop to the ground in early Fall and come up the next Spring. They are very shaded by the vine now so a lot don't survive, but a lot sprout up at first each Spring.

I'm planning to do like you mentioned James and purposely plant some seeds in the ground this Fall. I've found that by direct planting them, they have the best chance at surviving, mainly because of my forgetfulness or neglect.

This thread has a video and picture of the seedlings. https://permies.com/t/109766/berry/Volunteer-Muscadine-Grape-Scuppernong-Type#982494
 
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