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recommendations to top graft an Asian Pear

 
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I have an Asian Pear (Shinseiki) that always flowers weeks too early and I want to use it to graft other varieties.

Is it viable to graft a scion onto this tree even though the scion may not wake up for a month?  

Any scion recommendations for Zone 7B Hot and Humid (North Alabama)?  Where to get?
 
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I am not sure. But I am bumping your thread, hoping a permie with experience will chime in.
 
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Thanks. I stumbled into the paper from the rare fruit growers in California.  It seems that as long as the buds are not growing, which they have stopped, I can use them to graft.  The Asian Pear has more flowers but I will graft tomorrow and see how it goes.
Filename: How-to-Collect-and-Save-Scion-or-Bud-Wood.pdf
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i dont know much about hardiness but hosui is often considered the best tasting of the asian pears
 
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Yes, grafting is best done now.  I’m in AL also, Walker County.

whip and tongue grafts when scion and the rootstock is close to the same diameter.

Cleft graft for a super quick graft. 30second graft.
I do these on random public Bradford pear trees.

And when you’re doing a rootstock or top working an existing tree.  I tend to do a bark inlay graft and put a stick of scion every 2-3” around the circumference of the rootstock.



Here in the picture a single stick of  pear scion wood was grafted using a bark inlay graft in the spring of 2019.

The original tree was a naturally occurring wild seedling pear tree out in my pasture.
I grafted the eating pear at 5’ high to avoid deer pressure as the scion leafs out.

Using such a large “rootstock” and trimming off any growth other than the growth of my scion this particular scion grew in excess of 6’ in a single year.  Even after pruning multiple times to keep the scion from breaking.


Dennis. If you’re somewhat close I can hook you up with plenty of pear scion.
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Bark inlay graft
Bark inlay graft
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Thanks for the offer. I have harvested several bags of Asian Pear scions (Korean types). I did the grafting this weekend. I did an Oblique Cleft graft on 5 branch stubs. Now to sit and wait.
I hope some of the local people will do their Bradford and Cleveland Pears but  no takers so far.
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5 branches each with 3 scions
5 branches each with 3 scions
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Winter is not over so I need to protect.
Winter is not over so I need to protect.
 
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