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Is it ok to use cedar for hugelkultur?

 
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Is it OK to use almost exclusively Cedar trees for your hugelkultur?  I have 40 acres here in Oklahoma and a LOT of cedar that needs to be removed.

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You're going to have a difficult time doing that with whole trunks, as the point of the hugelkulture is to have *decayed* wood provide moisture and nutrients to the garden above. As wood decays, it actually absorbs lots of nitrogen an other vital resources for your plants, so putting a long-decaying wood into the beds will prevent them from reaping the benefits of *decayed* wood going into the ground below them.

You may be able to accelerate the process with a chipper and really rich compost, but there is a reason people use cedar for roofing, siding, and long-lasting mulch...
 
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It is definitely OK to use lots of cedar. It will likely take longer to break down but if you make sure to have soil/compost/manure contact with all buried logs and you provide a more generous top layer of soil for planting into. The other thing I would do is to put the cedar in the deepest layer and use any/all other woods that will rot faster in layers closer to the surface
 
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Some notes from using cedar fence posts. Young cedar with a lot of sap wood breaks down more rapidly than mature wood with more resin. Where there is already rotting cedar the organisms that break it down invade more rapidly. Therefore my recommendation is to use a mix of old fallen wood and young wood that is being removed for spacing.  Perhaps place the rotting wood on top and woodland soil on that for inoculation. Pemaculture principle: observe what is happening in your wood lot. When, where and how does fallen wood break down. In my environment moss provide provides habitat for surface break down and fungus where it is in moist soil contact. In dry conditions or anaerobic wet clay conditions there is little decay.
 
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I normally avoid western red cedar or redwood for hugels, but different species have different allelopathic effects. Are your talking about tamarisk/salt cedar? That is an old world tree relatively unrelated to North American species. If I wanted to grow a particular evergreen or its native associate species, I would use that tree’s wood, just like it does in the forest. The dead wood generally contains the fungal species necessary for healthy root/mycorizae associations necessary for many trees like redwood and western redcedar.
 
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I use cedar in my hugelkultur beds but I make sure to mix in other types of wood too. I figure some of the wood will breakdown quickly while others will take longer.

You can also use the wood to make habitat features which would provide some great benefits. Here is an article talking about this: https://sflonews.wordpress.com/2014/07/02/healthy-forests-include-wildlife-habitat/
 
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Ben Zumeta wrote:I normally avoid western red cedar or redwood for hugels, but different species have different allelopathic effects. Are your talking about tamarisk/salt cedar? That is an old world tree relatively unrelated to North American species. If I wanted to grow a particular evergreen or its native associate species, I would use that tree’s wood, just like it does in the forest. The dead wood generally contains the fungal species necessary for healthy root/mycorizae associations necessary for many trees like redwood and western redcedar.



Are you saying make woodcore beds with tamarisk? Are you doing this or have you? I want to use it, but trying to figure out how much salt it leaches out and what type. If any
 
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I have no experience with using tamarisk for hugels. I do remember it being invasive in the SW, and hence I’d wonder if it may sprout easily when buried if not truly dead. If the wood is prized for use as fence posts or otherwise noted for its longevity with soil contact, it’s probably not good for hugeling. On the other hand, these types of wood could be good for terraces, fencing, trellis or any other outdoor purpose.
 
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What's happening! I have some white cedar logs in my backyard, but was 20 feet. Could these break down in hugelkultur? Thanks!
 
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Cedar does not break down.  It might help to retain water, though it mighy not be what plants like...
 
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Could cedar help keep moisture in the mound to help speed the growth of the vegetation? Do they make conditions more acidic and unsuitable for crops such as tomatoes and stuff?
 
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I have used some cedar in small hugel pits with poor results. I won't try that again.

https://www.vegetablegardeningnews.com/is-cedar-safe-for-vegetable-gardens/
 
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Could cedar be buried for acidic tolerant plants such as blueberries?
 
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I would use cedar or redwood for terrace or raised bed edging, and almost any other wood for a hugel.
 
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