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Best way to make his grapes my grapes (plus an id question)

 
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I have a friend who has these delicious grapes (see below) that are growing on the property he rents. No idea what kind they are but I would appreciate any guesses or even a categorization. Anyways, I am going to attempt to propagate them onto my property as well. I've never tried to grow grapes before and know nothing about it.

So can someone please check me on this? First I take some cuttings in early spring. Then I put them in a vase with 2" of water, wait for them to root and then plant them in pots until they seem ready to go outside. At that point I transplant them into the ground, where I plan to build a trellis.

My big questions are:

Should I use a rooting hormone? What kind of care would these baby grapes need? When are they considered established?

Thanks so much!!

-Dan
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are they table grapes or wine grapes, doesn't really matter just curios. I had a friend fellow farmer from farmers market who had a few acres grape arbors with wine grapes and would make a bunch of money each summer from home winemakers who would come pick their own,
anyway I would clip off some new growth, dip stem in root hormone and stick in a pot with good potting soil, if you have ground prepared already try sticking some right in the ground too.
now sure if that's how your supposed to do it but that's what I would try.
 
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Take them in autumn, much more chance to succeed. Just plonk them into soil no chemicals needed.
Good chance they are grafted onto a strong rootstock., they will send out roots normally, but they will not grow as vigorous as the most vigurous grapes.
Way around this is, offer a pruning to your friend's grape and plant many not far from each other.
Planting some in pots and keeping them in more shaded conditions for a year and plant them out in the autumn the next year is what i am currently doing.
But because everybody's soiltype/climate/variety of plant/mentality of sticking to watering etc,etc is different, advice might be useless.
Best advice would be there are people who take many cuttings and try out different things, they have nice plants, the rest mostly fail. Goes for all plant propagation.
Good luck
 
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I wwoofed on a small vineyard in northern California where the farmer would use willow water as a rooting agent.
 
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What I have done in the past is make some one foot cuttings in the spring and just stick them directly into the soil
I have never done this but i think that you could probably make a cutting now at the end of summer then add a bit of rooting hormone and it will still survive
 
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Sorry for the delay. I forgot I would be out of town for a few days when I posted this.

I have no idea if they are table or wine grapes but since they taste great (very sweet) I am guess table. Right? Exposing my ignorance here...

I appreciate all the replies and advice, thank you all. I think the best was to try many differing methods and something outta stick. I will start the process this fall, take a few more cuttings in early spring and hopefully have some good results to report!
 
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