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Communal Kitchen Design

 
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Hey Everyone,
   I actually have a lot on my mind and to express to this amazing think-tank, and I am trying to get it out there as efficiently and effectively as possible.
   (I have "bootstrapped" my entire life, and have been learning as I go)

    I  am trying to create amazing places to heal the world. I want to get a 4-500sf kitchen designed, that captures and filters and stores the rain water and that somehow connects to a rocket cob oven? With cob wall on north side.  Inside, which would heat water to flow at a sink where dishes can be washed after meal

 To introduce myself, (it's relevant to topic) my name is Orion. I will be 29 next month. I have been interested and studying or practicing permaculture for close to 10 years now. In the past 7, I've gone from homeless to owning 5 acres, starting and building 2 businesses and recently a 3rd, and was recently forced to start another as I have been hired to help another person design and build thier farm! Amazing times...
    Both properties I live and work on are completely off-grid, no running water, or electricity. One property, where I have lived part time for two years has one 180sf cabin. Bare bones with windows and a metal roof.
    I own a tree service company, so I trim and remove trees, and a construction company. I have even worked on 5 treehouses and intend to build some soon.  I am now trying to put together two teams to work on the projects, and both projects will require a community kitchen ASAP.
    The first 2 years at the "Sanctuary" I observed, then began clearing and building a little over two years ago. We have an orchard planted in sacred geometry in the center and are expanding it with another 60 trees right now.
   I am ashamed to say, my infrastructure is seriously lacking and cooking might be done on a propane stove over the coals of a recreational fire ( I get tons of wood owning a tree company). Last year the house burned down after a rushed/emergency and cheap wood stove installment was left unattended to help a neighbor, so the tiny cabin is currently heated with a propane heater.
    I am really striving to always live in a more sacred way. I want to honor and not waste any resources.
   I need the most basic possible model for an ultra efficient/complete kitchen space for a community of up to 12 on 5 acres. It can include small solar.

    When the house burned down I lost everything. 15k to bounce back. Now I want to make sure any fire installations I do are full proof.

I know this community is amazing, and I am open to whatever comes organically.
Potential hopes:

1) "This wheel has already been invented. Her you go!"

2)Amazing, insightful/inspiring examples and ideas!

3) Someone who has experience building these exact kind of things and is nomadic is interested in coming and co-creating this, and I can pay them a reasonable amount in addition to hosting them!

4) I am interested in workshop/hands on cob building, rocket design ovens stoves, etc.( I am aware of paul's upcoming jubilee learning thing.... I am interested and trying to see if I can budget the ticket and trip and my personal expenses.)

4.5) I do really need to learn these skills.

5) Tips, pointers, and guidance beyond the kitchen.

6) Maybe a few of us create this, and it becomes a new model!?

  Very wet here can't Wafiti. My friend who I am helping is in Texas and Wafiti and earth/cob/adobe is the plan there.
   
           Thanks Everyone!!!
 
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To clarify a few things.
Is the kitchen itself going to be 500 sq ft.
Or,
is the building with a kitchen going to be 500 sq ft?
My signature below will take you to a rainwater catchment topic.
 
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It isn't particularly important whether it is exactly 500sf. It's a general number to create a general footprint. We would absolutely not under any circumstances take more than a 650sf footprint (local codes, etc) so 500 is a nice safe number to plan with. I didn't see your "signature below", but I have looked at the rainwater catchment thread.
I am almost feeling like the slow person in the room that didn't realize this is kind of what everyone is currently working on? But I am sure many people have already perfected it for themselves....?
Anyway, I'm working on it. Thanks for the interest!
 
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Orion, welcome. I assume you're accessing from mobile view, on desktop you can see people's signatures, locations, bumper stickers etc that get cut to fit onto a smaller screen- you're not deficient, the content isn't showing up for you.
His link was this one, there are various threads on water catchment, not sure if this is the one you saw. https://permies.com/t/88043/benefits-rainfall-collection

We've got a few threads out there about kitchen design that might be interesting to you, but this one seems to be the mother of all kitchen discussions, with everything from collective cooking processes to design. https://permies.com/t/38614/permaculture-projects/permaculture-kitchen

this one is interesting too https://permies.com/t/55821/Smart-Kitchen-Permaculture-Kitchen-Design
 
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