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Lets say I buy land somewhere. Whats a cheap way I can end up with a living situation on it? Rv living? Tent living? Yurt? Modular home? Earth bags?
I ask because Im sure I can buy land and move this month anywhere. But Im not sure financially I can build on it. I dont want to take a loan because once i homestead i plan on not working the way I have my whole life.
I may have to get a part time job as a cook or something ( unless i keep making $$ in this stock market). Hopefully even that paycheck will be more then what i need, being a minimalist.
 
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It depends so much on your situation.  Is it just you alone?  I could build a small shed-type structure on my land, insulate it, add a tiny wood stove in a few days very easily by myself for very little money and live quite comfortably, and our climate is harsh in the winter.  I have trees on my land, and a shovel, so a Mike Oehler house would be more work, but even less expense, especially if it only needed to last a few years.  Throw in a wife and kids, your requirements change pretty greatly.

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I’m shooting for a wigwam then build a wofati.
 
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School bus with enclosed porches. Taxes would be covered by the school bus tag sticker I guess.

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How are taxes paid by a stationary school bus?
If you get a small loan, and rethink your plan to not work regularly the standard of your living may improve.

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John C Daley wrote:How are taxes paid by a stationary school bus?



Improvements to a property nets a hefty tax burden in my neck of the woods. I believe a camper is exempt due to it's annual registration tax.


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Hi Osman,

The answer to your question varies greatly depending upon climate , local laws, and the availability of material.  In MN some friends of mine had a 24 x 24 house given to them ...they just had to move it.  Yes, it was in respectable condition after the move. And yes, they bought land near where the house was to make the move easier.  They moved it themselves. They braced it...cut it in half with a chain saw...and loaded it on a trailer.  Their total costs came to $500.00.

My point is by all means research carefully and plan. But also keep your eyes open for targets of opportunity.

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Very good effort to move that!

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I don't know if a shipping container would qualify in the tax bracket I'm proposing

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Hi John,

They were amateurs. But they did have good sense. ...and guts.  They did not apply for permits. I dont know if they needed any ..they stayed on township roads. They borrowed the trailer.  And, moving two 12x24 units was relatively easy.  They were off grid, so the wiring was not a concern. And, the cut avoided the plumbing. He removed the siding and shingles where the cut was to be done. Of course, he took down the chimney. The only trick was to get everything aligned in the new location. He had a number of helpers there, pry poles, and lots of beer. It went into place without too much of a fight.

Some people age like fine wine. I aged like milk … sour and chunky.

 
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