Removal of all mention of herbicides, even if their use is not being advocated seems excessive

I get it that these are Paul's forums, and what he wants goes, I totally understand.  While I appreciate the post probation feature versus just all-out removal, I think acknowledging the use of herbicides in regards to how a scientific study was conducted (their use is absolutely part of the process involved in the comment that I made, and I believe it would be disingenuous and contrary to the scientific process to suggest that the results obtained did not involve them) is reasonable.  I was very specific about not advocating their use, and I think having a healthy discussion about the existence of products in such wide use that the permies zeitgeist is so contrary to is unlikely to ever result in the advocacy of them.

I don't know what your comment was or the context but the notion that herbicides warrant scientific research is absolutely spurious insofar as the theory of evolution is accepted.  Therefore, canceling discussions of herbicides except to totally disparage them seems like the right thing to do to avoid distractions.  A better way forward is to instead focus on genuinely productive things.  That's what Aristotle would do.  

Laurel Jones said, "Wow, OK.  I had no idea that mentioning having used it in the past as a brief aside unrelated to the topic was enough to get a thread with a bunch of replies deleted.  Noted.

https://permies.com/t/164493/post-deleted

You are welcome to continue your discussion in the Cider Press:

https://permies.com/t/164492/discussion-herbicides-limited-cider-press

Cletus Hatfield wrote:I don't know what your comment was or the context but the notion that herbicides warrant scientific research is absolutely spurious insofar as the theory of evolution is accepted.  Therefore, canceling discussions of herbicides except to totally disparage them seems like the right thing to do to avoid distractions.  A better way forward is to instead focus on genuinely productive things.  That's what Aristotle would do.  

FWIW, I brought up an experience that I had seeing the results of a study performed by Purdue regarding the management/removal of invasives in forestry, and the methodology, primarily the use of goats.

I could spend about 4 hours explaining why, and another 180 hours reading your counter-arguments and replying.  But the weather is perfect today for putting my tomato seedlings in the garden.  

Also, we've already had this discussion so many times before

but but but but

publishing standards
be nice
Science vs science -- and engineering too
hate in the name of love
you should do something
citation needed?
fact - a four letter word
censorship
debate vs sharing
free speech
perennial discussions
deleting stuff

the cider press


And that still isn't enough for you get why and how permies is moderated the way it is, you can always swan song.  The rest of the internet is available to talk about poisons to your hearts content.  Here, not so much.