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Robert Ray

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Has anybody tried placing a tincture under vacuum to see if it works faster?

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Hi, Robert

I don't know if this thread might answer your question or if it is something entirely different, though I thought I would offer it up to see:

https://permies.com/t/31977/kitchen/Tincture-percolator-ideas-lab-glassware

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I am kind of an industrial process guy and a vacuum tincture sounded intriguing, but had to do a quick search because my first bit of skepticism was how I can boil a glass of water under a vacuum right until the point it freezes all at room temperature.

I found this site that talks about the process and attached a screenshot of my bit of skepticism getting squashed and confirmed.

https://healthy-food-near-me.com/the-technology-of-making-tinctures-in-a-vacuum/

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My mind is still running. I bet one can bypass any special equipment (in an area with tall mountains) by prepping the tinctures in the high country using a sealed jar and then aging it in the lowlands.

Robert Ray

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Thanks Tom,
I saw something where they were using a souis vide machine and my mind jumped to my vacuum foodsaver using the mason jar attachment and then to my vacuum casting machine that would create a much higher vacuum, just pondering.

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My first thought was using my freeze dryer as a vacuum chamber, then remembered why it's programming takes it down to temperature before kicking on the pump. And a giant evaporation tower at a soda ash plant I walked down. They pulled a vacuum on it to reduce the energy required to boil away the water.

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You can build your own vacuum pump out of an old bicycle pump. It is used to store seeds for a longer time among else.

Below a link on how to build one in a low-tech way, it focuses on seeds, but the process would be exactly the same when you do your tinctures.

https://www.echocommunity.org/en/resources/49954b28-cefb-46f3-9c46-ffd1723c329b

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I have a regular bell jar vacuum chamber for mold making lost wax molds, but also a vaccum chamber for resin casting. I've held vacuum in the stainless steel chamber for 24hrs with out having to fiddle with it. The vacuum vessel can also be used as a pressure vessel so I could try both methods. If I keep the vacuum at below the 100mmHg mark it shouldn't boil off. Guess I'll give it a go, see what happens.

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yes we do and yes it works faster . we can do in a hour that is normally 2 weeks . can see videos on the healing swamp face book page

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Robert Ray wrote:Thanks Tom,
I saw something where they were using a souis vide machine and my mind jumped to my vacuum foodsaver using the mason jar attachment and then to my vacuum casting machine that would create a much higher vacuum, just pondering.

I use the sous vide all the time, for both tinctures and oil infusions. I never thought of trying it with a simple vacuum system, sans heat. Maybe next time, I'll do one herb, tincture both ways, for comparison, and see what the results are.

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