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If you told this man one thing to add to his $1.2 billion dollar development in NYC, what'd it be?

 
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https://www.christianitytoday.com/news/2022/august/ar-bernard-nyc-affordable-housing-church.html

From the article:
"On 10.5 acres of church land, the proposed village would include thousands of units of affordable housing, a trade school, a supermarket, a performing arts center, 24/7 childcare for night-shift workers, senior living facilities, and other amenities designed to revitalize the East New York neighborhood."

If you could request that he add one more thing to this list, what would it be?
 
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If I were to add one thing it would be a green space with real soil for growing things.

Doesn't have to be as posh as this:
urban green space apothecary garden


The St John’s Hospice – A Modern Apothecary Garden
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Being in a green space is good for us on so many levels.
 
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With today's society of people eating every meal in restaurants, this guy would need to add lots of restaurants.

And since the only school is a trade school then all parents will be homeschooling their kids or this guy would need to add more schools.

I love Nancy's suggestion for green spaces.
 
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From the article,

"Church is a generational service, birth to death,” he said. “How can we make a difference using the land that’s available to us?”


Personally, what I love about permaculture is its emphasis on composting, no-waste, reintegrating biomass, planting, growing, harvesting and composting again. The “everything belongs” and “everything returns” approach to reality really appeals to me.
The suggestions noted above for “revitalizing” the East NY community mostly relate to aspects of daily living: housing, shopping, eating out, entertainment. There doesn’t seem to be much related to the actual cycle of the garden - birth or death - in this 10.5 acres.
Right on Nancy Reading! Gardens are essential for they gently reflect the stages of our own lives.
Yet given the commitment of the community as quoted above, could this place actualize what we see dimly in that garden gazing ball? Could there be a full-circle manifestation within this community that reintegrates the actual remains of those who once actively lived in and around this place back into the neighborhood following expiration? Could there be a something that reorients the growth and prosperity curve into a circle: an ecologically advanced reintegration of human (and animal and plant) residents post mortem?
Welcoming babies is the easy part of the “birth-to-death”  commitment of a community. I would seriously brainstorm about how to reintegrate the remains of the residents in a way that is “revitalizing” (healthy and nourishing) to the land and human community. Rather than a toxin-riddled cemetery, I would add a leading edge "green burial" garden. The outward growth (economic flourishing) orientation of this property development plan needs a complementary return-to-earth (re-membering) aspect to attend to the full cycle of human experience.
 
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The entire roof(s) as green space in the form of a forest garden park.
 
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A community garden and senior/child daycare. The idea is that willing seniors would “grandparent” infants and toddlers while parent(s) were either working or in school.
 
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Fruit trees and bushes.
 
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