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Hello, i am new to the forum and gathering ideas for my lifestyle change

 
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Hello,    Indiana resident here, gathering information and planning the big move.     I have been checking out various homesteading/prepper/off-grid sites for feedback.     I have narrowed down my list and wanted to see if anyone here was from southern west virginia.   i am thinking close to ohio/kentucky .      I realize there isnt an abundance of flat land, but that area seems to be a good starting place to look.     I would appreciate any feedback be it positive or negative.     Indiana is fine, ,but the acreage and tax is crazy here and getting worse.    From what i have read, wv seems to have more affordable land price,   lower taxes,  relaxed building codes and plentiful rainfall for collection purposes.     Thanks for all input given.


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hi David,  it is fun and exhilarating to search for the dream property. We are located in Western NC. I thought we would end up closer to Asheville, that's where folks are willing to pay a higher premium for quality goods. AND there is more people to purchase goods.

Instead we landed in a much more rural area. I love where we live. However finding off the farm income to pay for the dream has been challenging. The market is highly competitive. Lots of small farms creating great products.

If you are looking into homesteading, then marketing might not be an hurdle. My goal is have the farm break even, make a profit whilst creating as many closed systems as possible.

It comes down to little things, like starting a composting program. There are 5 restaurants in town. None want to compost. Even to pick it up for free, they say their staff won't support it. AND in nearby towns there is a lot of competition for resources. Even compost. haha....who would have ever thought???

Visit the area as much as you can. Get a feel for the vibe. Talk to people. If you are happy living somewhere, you will find a way to make things work
 
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Hi David,

Welcome to Permies.  
 
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Welcome to permies.com David.
There is so much information here, I am super excited about you lifestyle change.

Like you I am motivated by health, wealth and self-sufficency.

I like the idea of eating less flour, rice, corn and their derivatives e.g donuts, pasta, high fructose corn syrup, and more nuts, beans, squash, sweet potatoes, potatoes, parsnip/carrots, etc.

Food:
Carbs: Eat and grow: tubers, nuts and seeds, little grains, Warre bee-hive for honey/sugar.
Minerals: Eat and grow cabbage family, spinach family, lettuce family, etc
Herbs: Eat and grow more mint/thyme family, celery family, onion family, etc
Protien: Eat and grow my own Winecap Mushroom, Oyster Mushroom, beans, fish, eggs, milk/cheese/kefir, chicken/duck, sheep/goat/cow
Fat: Eat and grow my own butter, nut-oil, animal-lard
Food Preservation: solar dehydration, fermentation, sugaring, etc
I like this gardening book alot https://johnjeavons.org/books-and-videos/#BOOK

Water:
To me it seems like a great idea to have a well dug at the very least for a backup, so that it is available just in case, even if I am still connected to grid-water, I would at least want a 20ft stand point well.

Sewage:
I think it is a good idea, to have a code-approved septic system, just in case you have to rent out or sell your place due to an emergency or need to bank to loan you some money. But that doesn't mean that you have to use it. I like the idea of having 5IBC totes to treat sewage on-site aerobiacally and with worms.

Electric:
I like prepaying for it with solar panels or if oyu are lucky with hydropower drom a stream on your property.

HVAC:
I like infloor radiant heating with some pex piping. powered by a pellet broiler, or maybe with a heat pump or solar or electric or gas for backup
I like the idea of a very insulated house R-40 on all 6 sides, and with a ERV to help with ventilation
In the winter I like having a humidifier to help with the dry air
Mini-split heat pump/ac unit, so that each zone can be control independently. Also it doesn't even have to cool the house down to 70F it can even be set to 85F as long as it also lowers the humidity

Building:
There are so many ways to build the house. I like the idea of it using the post and beam style and non-load bearing walls, so that even if I sell the house later and someone change a wall, it is still safe/stable. And esp if I need the bank to lend me some money for an emergency, aging in place and getting sick brings alot of uncertaincy. Now for the non-load bearing walls, I can use stick-frame, strawbale, earthbag, stone, cement, brick, etc. The inspector/permitting folks will love to hear that the "exotic" walls are all non-load bearing and will approve it with "no questions asked".

Earthworks:
Food production all starts with the soil. So swales to make it hold more water. Bio-char and woodchip to build up the soil organic matter and the amount of soil life that it can hold. Compost and worm tea and kefir liquid, etc to import more soil life. Cover crop to help with de-compaction from tillage radish/etc, nitrogen/fertility form legumes, herbs for pest control, etc, etc. You can also setup the area for rotational grazing too.

But enough of my ramblings. I am looking forward the idea and questions that you will share in the future.
 
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