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I'm acquiring a metal-framed tin building (originally used by a methane company). It will basically be the frame and exterior siding placed on a cement footing. So I have free reign on figuring out insulation, interior walls, flooring, and whatever else I might be missing. I would love ideas to avoid the traditional spray-insulation and sheetrock route. I like the idea of cobb and natural stone flooring. Any thoughts are appreciated!
 
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Hey Shayley.
I would be inclined to try earthen plaster over pallet wood for the interior.

Insulation is tricky, the metal frame and skin might produce a lot of condensation.
Adding a rainscreen detail under the metal cladding might help, but it will also add cost and complexity.
Picking the right insulation should help.
Rockwool is notable as resilient to moisture.
 
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I have two metal buildings that we use as a workshop and storage.

In the future, I want to make one of them a bunkhouse.

My idea is to frame the interior walls with wood 2" x 4", add insulation, and then use either sheetrock or paneling.

The paneling has gotten hard to find so I would probably end up with sheet rock.

Will you be turning the building into living quarters?

Since you mentioned cof, a rocket mass heater might be something nice to plan for:

https://permies.com/w/cob-style-rmh
 
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I would do as Anne says but dislike Sheetrock. I use shiplapped boards instead now. At 10 inches wide a board covers a lot of space but is easy to trim around obstructions. You can put a nail or screw anywhere you want to hold things. The cost is cheap. It can be painted any color you wish. Is renewable…

The list goes on and on.

As an alternative, you could insulate and frame with 2x4s and then use steel on the inside. I have done that before. It looks good, lasts forever and can be any color you want too.
 
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This makes me recall how much I like board and batten.

I am good at recommending things to others though I am cheap so as I said I would use sheetrock.  

Our house came with a board and batten wall which I feel is very "stylish"

Here is a thread with pictures where I recommended board and batten and cedar planks, too:

https://permies.com/t/192183/permaculture/finish-basement-wall#1589159
 
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Shayley your end use is the critical factor.
If you are going ;
- to keep vehicles in it,
- or create living quarters for humans
the requirements for comfort and health vary greatly.
 
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John C Daley wrote:Shayley your end use is the critical factor.
If you are going ;
- to keep vehicles in it,
- or create living quarters for humans
the requirements for comfort and health vary greatly.




Oh, that information was very obvious in my head. Apparently you all aren't mind readers. Living quarters is the goal. Thanks!
 
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Anne Miller wrote:This makes me recall how much I like board and batten.

I am good at recommending things to others though I am cheap so as I said I would use sheetrock.  

Our house came with a board and batten wall which I feel is very "stylish"

Here is a thread with pictures where I recommended board and batten and cedar planks, too:

https://permies.com/t/192183/permaculture/finish-basement-wall#1589159




Thanks for the idea! I've never heard of board and batten, but will definitely look into it.
 
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Steve Zoma wrote:I would do as Anne says but dislike Sheetrock. I use shiplapped boards instead now. At 10 inches wide a board covers a lot of space but is easy to trim around obstructions. You can put a nail or screw anywhere you want to hold things. The cost is cheap. It can be painted any color you wish. Is renewable…

The list goes on and on.

As an alternative, you could insulate and frame with 2x4s and then use steel on the inside. I have done that before. It looks good, lasts forever and can be any color you want too.




Hey, those are both great ideas. Thank you!
 
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Anne Miller wrote:I have two metal buildings that we use as a workshop and storage.

In the future, I want to make one of them a bunkhouse.

My idea is to frame the interior walls with wood 2" x 4", add insulation, and then use either sheetrock or paneling.

The paneling has gotten hard to find so I would probably end up with sheet rock.

Will you be turning the building into living quarters?

Since you mentioned cof, a rocket mass heater might be something nice to plan for:


Thanks for sharing! A rocket mass heater will absolutely be a feature. I live in Wyoming, so that supplemental heat and radiating seat are at the top of my list. Yes, living quarters.
https://permies.com/w/cob-style-rmh

 
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William Bronson wrote:Hey Shayley.
I would be inclined to try earthen plaster over pallet wood for the interior.

Insulation is tricky, the metal frame and skin might produce a lot of condensation.
Adding a rainscreen detail under the metal cladding might help, but it will also add cost and complexity.
Picking the right insulation should help.
Rockwool is notable as resilient to moisture.




I really like the earthen plaster/pallet wood idea.

And that gives me more to consider when it comes to insulation. Thank you!
 
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Ok, for living the issues are;
- light
- moisture
- ventilation and draughts
- insulation
- heating and cooling.
- water supply and sanitation.
If you break each heading away and make notes about them, you will start to get a picture of you wants and needs for each.
Then you can start to get an idea of what you can do and what you need help with.
From there thoughts about materials required and potential cost overall will evolve.
When you get over that shock, the rethink starts!
I always recommend people start with their small needs and slowly make improvements over time as cash allows.
 
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I happened to dee this thread that I thought might be helpful:

https://permies.com/t/193059/Finishing-metal-frame-storage-shed
 
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Anne Miller wrote:This makes me recall how much I like board and batten.

I am good at recommending things to others though I am cheap so as I said I would use sheetrock.  

Our house came with a board and batten wall which I feel is very "stylish"

Here is a thread with pictures where I recommended board and batten and cedar planks, too:

https://permies.com/t/192183/permaculture/finish-basement-wall#1589159



I like board and batten siding too. It’s very diy with a persons own made lumber or bought an, has a very earthy feel to it, and is really inexpensive to do.

I will say there is an east way, but that is not the right way to do board and batten siding.
 
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Anne reminded me of something and you just have to live Anne for being so forthcoming…

A person can do outside siding inside. For instance I have done cedar shingles on an inside shop wall. It’s really cheap because without water to keep out, you can make the exposure 9 inches or longer. You get a lot of extra coverage with 1/3 more coverage per square of shingles.

You can do the same for clapboards too and those are easy to make on a sawmill in a diy setting.
 
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Interior finishing for a tin building opens up a realm of creative possibilities, transforming an industrial space into a charming, functional, and inviting environment. The unique canvas provided by the tin structure allows for innovative design concepts that blend rustic aesthetics with modern comforts.

Start by considering the color palette. Soft neutrals like whites, grays, and earthy tones can balance the rawness of the tin walls while creating a versatile backdrop for various décor styles. Incorporating wooden elements, such as exposed beams or reclaimed wood accents, can add warmth and a touch of nature to the space.

Lighting plays a crucial role in enhancing the atmosphere. Industrial-style pendant lights or vintage chandeliers can serve as focal points, complementing the tin's rugged appeal. To create visual interest, you could experiment with different lighting fixtures at varying heights.

Textiles and furnishings contribute to both comfort and style. Soft, plush textiles like area rugs, cozy sofas, and upholstered chairs can soften the space and juxtapose its industrial nature. Mixing vintage and contemporary furniture pieces can create an eclectic vibe that showcases your personality.

Consider incorporating functional partitions or room dividers to define different areas while maintaining an open feel. Sliding barn doors or repurposed panels can add character and privacy where needed.

Art and accessories provide the finishing touches. Large-scale artwork or murals can make a bold statement against the tin backdrop. Decorative elements like indoor plants, vintage signs, or quirky wall hangings can infuse the space with personality.
 
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