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WVO Blending with Gasoline to Make Diesel Fuel

 
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http://beyondbiodiesel.org/forum/index.php

I came upon this web site after I stumbled onto a YouTube video. The claim in the video is that gasoline can be added to waste vegetable oil (about 20-25% gasoline) which mixes readily with the oil. According to the claim, if you let it settle for a few days, then the more dense contaminants will settle out very well (including water). The remaining oil/gasoline mixture can then be filtered and used directly as Diesel fuel. I'm not into biodiesel quite simply because I don't own a Diesel engine, but more important I have no access to waste vegetable oil. However, I thought you biodiesel guys and gals might want to check this out. If you verify it or debunk it, then please share with the forum.
 
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You can do this with a variety of oils, including hydraulic, transmission, or engine oil.

Typically, it is 15-20% gasoline with the oil to reduce viscosity. some oils, like ATF, can go as low as 5% gasoline, because the viscosity almost matches diesel already.

Here's a forum where lots of people use these systems:
http://www.oilburners.net/forums/forumdisplay.php?96-BioDiesel-amp-Alternative-Fuels&pp=25&sort=lastpost&order=desc&daysprune=365

Basically, you want to add gasoline to your oil, then let it settle for a few days, then siphon off the top and filter, filter, filter. A centrifuge is the best option for this. Once you get it clean, you can run it in your diesel. IDI diesels are better for this.
 
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My injection pump costs $1000 at a minimum, I am skipping all things WVO.
And, yes, sourcing oil seems to be a problem.
My friend uses WVO and his rig is always needing to be fixed -- way too much tinkering for me.
 
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Go IDI. I just rebuilt my IP + new injectors, glow plugs, fuel pump, etc for under $1,000.

Then, you can run just about any oil, as long as you match the viscosity of diesel.
 
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Marchos Buenijo : I can't believe I am asking this as you tube is my least favorite place to go to for Information ! Is there a chance that you could post the original U-tube
video on this subject ? on top of everything else this site or its server is down for maintenance ! Thank You ! Big Al !
 
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allen lumley wrote: Marchos Buenijo : I can't believe I am asking this as you tube is my least favorite place to go to for Information ! Is there a chance that you could post the original U-tube
video on this subject ? on top of everything else this site or its server is down for maintenance ! Thank You ! Big Al !



Sorry Big Al, looks like I missed this one. I can't recall the exact video, but I'm quite sure it was posted under YouTube account "Jeffrey Brooks".
 
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austin lerwick wrote:Hi,
"WVO Blending with Gasoline to Make Diesel Fuel" I don't understand can you please elaborate and the link is not going on particular topic too.



http://beyondbiodiesel.org/forum/index.php/topic,12.0.html

Just peruse the forum and you might find what you need. Note that I have no experience or real interest in it, I was merely sharing the info for those who might have interest.
 
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I have covered a lot of miles on grease WVO style from the US Southeast to Alaska.

I would say just keep it simple and burn filtered waste vegetable oil in your diesel engine once it's the right temp.

That's all there is to it.

I personally started out with a simple kit for diesel truck from this company: http://www.goldenfuelsystems.com/



 
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Chris Badgett wrote:
I would say just keep it simple and burn filtered waste vegetable oil in your diesel engine once it's the right temp.



Blending is the simplest method to get going. No kits required. Just mix gasoline with oil, and put it in your tank. It works with vegetable oil, motor oil, hydraulic oil, transmission fluid, etc.
 
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Haven't been around for a while (job commitments) so only just coming back to the forum today. Does it have to be gasoline that you mix the WVO with? Could you do the same with say isoprol (sp) alcohol or any other kind of alcohol? Or would that cause other problems (detonation etc)?
 
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Jeff McLeod wrote:Haven't been around for a while (job commitments) so only just coming back to the forum today. Does it have to be gasoline that you mix the WVO with? Could you do the same with say isoprol (sp) alcohol or any other kind of alcohol? Or would that cause other problems (detonation etc)?



gasoline is used as a thinning agent, so yes, other thinners could be used. You're basically trying to get the oil/thinner mix to match the viscosity of diesel for the sake of your pumps.
 
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Do not use just gasoline when thinning WVO. It will tear up your Fuel pump and gum your injectors. You need to use 50% WVO, 40% Jet fuel (Go to you local airport and tell them you need it for an RC Jet), 10% Gasoline. NEVER use diesel to thin it. Make sure you add Acetone about 5% total gallons made, and I added Diesel Clean per recomm on bottle. The Acetone will bond the WVO, Jet A, and Gasoline, or it will separate.

I have run WVO on my Cummins 5.9, and a friends 7.3 pre 2001 for 5 years and in the summer, I would mix this. We took apart our injectors one day to increase high performace, and they were cleaner than when we ran diesel. Make sure you do not run this blend all the time. Run pure WVO heated to 160 degrees before the injectors, and your engine will love you.

I am now working on Algae, since places are not giving WVO for free anymore.

BTW if you have a diesel post the EPA idiots for emissions in 2002, you are going to be doing alot of repairs. Post 2002 are just gas engines that run diesel fuel and are not made for oil.
 
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