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Will a portable winch allow me to pull van on field if it gets stuck?

 
                      
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Something like this: https://www.winches-uk.co.uk/product/warrior-ninja-500kg-hoist-winch/

Hmm just reading the description it sounds like just the type of thing to suit! Oh I see that is only 500kg. Should I go for the weight of the van or above (2 tonne) or can it be less since I would be driving as well. Since I will be alone though I couldn't drive and winch at the same time so perhaps above 2 tonne to do all by winch if that would work would be better?

Would like it as a 'get out' in case I got stuck with none 4x4 van on a boggy field which will have gravel track but could easily go off the track. I would really like to have a backup in case that happened. I plan to park midway on the field on a slope and so when leaving I would have to drive uphill which I am wondering how much more that may cause the van to struggle to grip so I am thinking the winch would be there to give it a helping hand if the occasion arose.

I don't want to have to resort to asking the local farmers for a pull from their tractor if I can help it as I am not really friendly with them. Not on bad terms per se but I am sure they think I am a weirdo hippy who lives an opposite lifestyle to their classical livestock farming and shooting for fun.

Are 12v winches of similar pulling power to fuel powered ones? 12v would be better because I can charge with the van's 12v system which has a dc-dc charger. I guess not directly, due to the distance,  but maybe have a cheap dedicated 12v battery for the winch and run the van engine to charge it.

Would it just be a case of ramming a couple of thickish timbers into the ground and putting it between them? I am thinking perhaps put it near the entrance, or rather have it mountable/demountable, and then it can give a 'helping hand' if the van was struggling to get out on the track for some reason.

Looks like it could have many other uses too for labor related tasks. That would be what I would buy it for first and foremost though.
 
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I cant answer your winch question though we have used a come a long when our vehicle got stuck in mud.

It is a cheap alternative.
 
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Eomer -

A winch rated for 1/2 tonne sounds a little light to me, for a van (even for a small van).  At least here in the US, that size might be appropriate for a quad (4 wheel ATV) or similar.  For a full size vehicle, 3 or 4 tonne rated would be more common.  For a smaller vehicle, 2 tonne wouldn't be out of place.

If the vehicle is on a level, hard surface (with properly inflated tires), then comparatively little tractive effort will be required to roll it.  But, if off track, as you've indicated is a concern, and especially if the ground is soft, the winch might need to displace quite a bit of soil as the vehicle is dragged back up onto the track.  Even though most automotive winches aren't rated for overhead lifting, having one with approximately the same nominal line pull as the weight of the vehicle is cheap insurance (again, at least in the US - prices may be different where you are).  Remember that the rated line pull of a winch is usually for the first wrap of cable on the drum (cable mostly pulled off the drum).  As more and more cable is wound onto the drum, the effective diameter of the drum increases (cable is being wound onto other layers of cable) which decreases the mechanical advantage of the winch and so also decreases the line pull.

Many electric winches these days have plug-in remotes, which you can bring into the vehicle (if the cord is long enough).  This would allow you to operate the vehicle and the remote at the same time.  At the least, you can position your meaty bits in a position of relative safety.  A parted cable is a fearsome thing.

There are also hydraulic winches available which use vehicle's the power steering pump to drive the winch (for vehicles with hydraulic power steering).  This style of winch may not be appropriate for your vehicle.

Another option to consider might be a manually operated mechanical winch of some sort.  I now have accumulated several "come-a-long" cable pullers, with a ratcheting hand lever rotating a cable drum.  At least two of these have "snatch blocks" permanently installed on the cables, and I have another snatch block which can be quickly slipped onto a line.  Snatch blocks allow the line to be doubled, which can double the line pull force (give or take some friction losses, and at half the speed - you don't get something for nothing!), or can be used to redirect the angle of line pull.  Though my cable pullers do occasionally get pressed into service for vehicle recovery, they get used a lot more for other purposes - moving/lifting heavy objects, pulling "leaner" trees to the side so that they will drop somewhere more convenient, etc.

Another style of manual mechanical cable winch is the highly regarded Tirfors.  I've never owned or used one, but they are commonly used for vehicle recovery, rigging, raising timber frames, etc.  These winches "walk" or "inch worm" the pulling unit along the cable, but do not wind the cable on a drum.  The available pulling force is constant, and these units can be walked along the cable in both directions.  These can be had in models rated for overhead lifting, and there is no limit to the length of cable which can be used, since it isn't wound onto a drum.

An old fashioned style of winch, which used a drum but also didn't store the cable or rope on it, is the capstan winch.  These were fairly common on the old Series Land Rovers (Fairey was the standard brand), but I don't know of any current manufacturers of small vehicular capstans.  Capstans are still quite commonly used in marine applications - deck winches on small sailing boats being a well-known example.  You might find a marine capstan in a salvage yard at a good price, though it may only be rated for use with certain kinds of rope.  Since synthetic (non-metallic) winch line is commonly available these days, this is probably less of an issue than it would have been a decade or two ago.

For many years, I only had a manual Maasdam brand "come-a-long" cable puller style winch, some rusty chain with hooks pinned to the end links to extend my reach, and a couple of nylon sling straps.  If on a tight budget, I'd go the same way again.  This is a very versatile set of tools, not just for vehicle recovery.

You'll certainly need some sort of anchor when extracting a vehicle.  This could be as simple as wrapping a "tree saver" strap around a substantial tree or driving some "pickets" (steel stakes) into the soil, or might involve burying a "dead man" in a trench or hole dug into the soil (anything from a length of log/timber to a spare tire, under exigent circumstances), to using a folding "Pul-pal" style plow anchor.

There are good "self-recovery" instructional videos on YouTube which discuss technical and safety aspects.  A local "green laning", four wheel drive or trials club might be a good source of education in these matters, depending on your location.

I hope this is helpful.

Kevin
 
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I am pretty much with Kevin.  I would go with 3 tons.  I have two 3 ton come alongs that I end up using once or twice a year.  Coupled with a long tow chain, they get me out of any problem I have been able to invent.   I like the fact they are not attached to a vehicle; it seems to add more  flexibility.  My most recent use will be to pull and old water heater out of our basement.
 
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depends on how stuck you want to get.    

You probably want a 3 to 5 ton winch with at least one snatch block to spread the load.

The problem is your ground anchors in a field.  For wilderness use we carried old axle shafts from full floating truck axles.  drive them in with a sledge hammer at a steep angle like a giant nail on a steep angle so when they pull thru the soil the start to stand up for max pull.  Shovel and manual jack to pull it after.  In a field you will find a major problem finding an anchor point.  Digging them in is a huge amount of work.
 
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I concur with the comments above in regards to anchors. A good anchor is hard to get, and harder to improvise. Without one, a winch is useless.

Sometimes it's more effective to carry a good jack and a couple of planks with expanded metal bolted to them (for traction). In boggy land, bring stout bases for the jack so you can lift the vehicle slightly and get the traction planks underneath the drive wheels.
 
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Hi Douglas,

Good idea. I keep a couple of 8ft 2x12s in my barn. They function as ramps as well as providing some traction in boggy areas.
 
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