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Invasive plants are Earth's way of insisting we notice her medicines. Stephen Herrod Buhner
Everyone learns what works by learning what doesn't work. Stephen Herrod Buhner
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Anne, How do you know? Have you done side by side tests? Also, compost tea, you have to make compost, then soak it, so that takes 3 months at least. The weed soup, you just make the soup, and you can use it the next day. I use the solids from the soup as mulch, and I can use the mulch the next day too. Compost (and compost tea) is like withdrawing nutrients from your gardening bank account, letting them devalue in the compost heap, and returning them 3 months or 9 months later with a whole new set of invading bacteria. I think the weed soup thing is more likely to give your soil bacteria a jump when they need it. Compost tea is more like a halfway house to chemical fertilizer. That is my take.Anne Miller wrote:Hands down the compost tea is better.
Though what ever is easiest for you would be better than nothing.
Here is an older thread that you or others might find interesting:
https://permies.com/t/8171/composting/fermented-weed-soup-compost-tea
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Timothy Norton wrote:I utilize both compost tea and plant tea, generally for the same purpose even though they might have different mechanisms of action.
I first started using plant tea after watching a David the Good video.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x4pMkLGWes0
I view both teas as a quick nutrient application. I am unsure if it is from soluble nutrients found in the originating matter being put into water or if it is the bacteria that thrive in the watery mix, but my plants have had positive growth from both. I believe that you may be getting different nutrient profiles depending on what you are sourcing for your tea material (Compost or plants) but the idea is similar. The water acts as a vehicle for plant food to get to the roots.
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Brian White wrote:
Anne, How do you know? Have you done side by side tests? Also, compost tea, you have to make compost, then soak it, so that takes 3 months at least. The weed soup, you just make the soup, and you can use it the next day. I use the solids from the soup as mulch, and I can use the mulch the next day too. Compost (and compost tea) is like withdrawing nutrients from your gardening bank account, letting them devalue in the compost heap, and returning them 3 months or 9 months later with a whole new set of invading bacteria. I think the weed soup thing is more likely to give your soil bacteria a jump when they need it. Compost tea is more like a halfway house to chemical fertilizer. That is my take.Anne Miller wrote:Hands down the compost tea is better.
Though what ever is easiest for you would be better than nothing.
Here is an older thread that you or others might find interesting:
https://permies.com/t/8171/composting/fermented-weed-soup-compost-tea
Bryant said, Quick short version: Some items are "richer" than others, for a really rich tea, use only the richest components for the compost and make sure to aerate while it brews.
Think like a computer program, garbage in = garbage out.
Redhawk
Invasive plants are Earth's way of insisting we notice her medicines. Stephen Herrod Buhner
Everyone learns what works by learning what doesn't work. Stephen Herrod Buhner
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Life on a farm is a school of patience; you can't hurry the crops or make an ox in two days.
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Brian White wrote:
Anne, How do you know? Have you done side by side tests? Also, compost tea, you have to make compost, then soak it, so that takes 3 months at least. The weed soup, you just make the soup, and you can use it the next day. I use the solids from the soup as mulch, and I can use the mulch the next day too. Compost (and compost tea) is like withdrawing nutrients from your gardening bank account, letting them devalue in the compost heap, and returning them 3 months or 9 months later with a whole new set of invading bacteria. I think the weed soup thing is more likely to give your soil bacteria a jump when they need it. Compost tea is more like a halfway house to chemical fertilizer. That is my take.Anne Miller wrote:Hands down the compost tea is better.
Though what ever is easiest for you would be better than nothing.
Here is an older thread that you or others might find interesting:
https://permies.com/t/8171/composting/fermented-weed-soup-compost-tea
This is all just my opinion based on a flawed memory
Timothy Norton wrote:I utilize both compost tea and plant tea, generally for the same purpose even though they might have different mechanisms of action.
I first started using plant tea after watching a David the Good video.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x4pMkLGWes0
I view both teas as a quick nutrient application. I am unsure if it is from soluble nutrients found in the originating matter being put into water or if it is the bacteria that thrive in the watery mix, but my plants have had positive growth from both. I believe that you may be getting different nutrient profiles depending on what you are sourcing for your tea material (Compost or plants) but the idea is similar. The water acts as a vehicle for plant food to get to the roots.
Life on a farm is a school of patience; you can't hurry the crops or make an ox in two days.
Henri Alain
Ben Zumeta wrote:
Brian White wrote:
Hi, Ben. My argument is correct, there is more biological energy (carbohydrates, etc.), in the weed soup than in compost tea, if you boil chopped up weeds, juice is extracted from the weeds, (just as spider mites, and aphids extract plant juice to live) and also some complex organic compounds get broken down and become part of the weed soup. If you dilute weed soup and use it when you water your plants, you are feeding the bacteria that are already there in the soil. No new bacteria needed. They will use the carbohydrate to multiply. Protozoa already in the soil will eat the bacteria, worms will eat the bacteria, die, decompose and nutrients will be released in forms available to the plants. I think that fungi will especially benefit from weed soup carbohydrates, especially because they are already broken down somewhat. So, yeah, garden soil already contains a vast number and variety of bacteria and fungi. It is easier to feed the ones that are there than to add more. I don't know how things work with foliar applications of compost tea. People seem to be hyper critical of new stuff, I did a compost tea brewery, (actually have one going now), so not sure why people think I am so against compost tea.Anne Miller wrote:Hands down the compost tea is better.
I like your idea for using a solar cooker, but this is a straw man argument about compost teas. I could give a long, redundant explanation of soil biology that has already been provided abundantly on this forum, including in the thread provided. It also appears that information is not welcomed by the OP though, so it would be a waste of time to repeat it here.
Anyone who has made really good compost, extract or teas would not say “it has no energy in it” .Especially if looking at it under a microscope, or its effect on plant growth. It has billions of living micro organisms cycling nutrients and energy, which the plants get looped into with application. These microbes live on and in the plants, greatly improving their ability to access and cycle nutrients, water and energy.
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