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how to get rid of Candida?

 
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not sure if I'm in the right section. I'm looking for info about how to get rid of Candida naturally. There is so much "crap" on the internet about "buy my product, buy my book" Does any one have or know of a good candida "diet" and Cleanse that I can make my self? Any info at all would be greatly appreciated!! Thanks for reading!
 
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candida is a huge problem that many people face, often without even knowing it.

most importantly - immediately stop eating sugar. i know, this is hard!
the sugar from honey, agave, xylitol, maple syrup and other alternative sugars isnt as bad, but these should also be minimized. xylitol, even with its odd name, is one of the best alternative sugars, being a sugar made from birch bark and corn cobs, and having a different chemical structure than straight sugar, making it a good alternative.

next stop eating wheat. also hard, if you have the cravings for it.
some people say that candida actually influences your cravings and such, so that a person with it is drawn to foods that make it worse, feeding the yeast and imbalances in the body. also candida is often found alongside parasites, nutritional and vitamin deficiencies, people with nutritional imbalances and deficiencies also tend to crave the wrong things...there may be a vitamin deficiency that instead gets translated to a craving for breads, pasta or sweets instead.

good foods that support a healthy digestive system - probiotics, fermented foods, kim chi, fish and fish oil, yogurt, green leafies, salad, anything raw, fresh fruits and veggies, coconut, vinegar and all that stuff we know is healthy to eat. another good rule to follow (always, but especially when dealing with digestive problems) is no food from a box, can or package.

the best way to cleanse is to fast, for as long as possible.
fasting is more effective than any herbs or medicines, but the herbs and medicines can assist.
its best to build up to it slowly, lessening food for a couple of weeks and only eating really simple meals, avoiding sugar and wheat completely, and also not having much dairy. then start fasting for as long as you can manage. if you go a couple of days and feel you cant keep fasting, have a simple meal (no sugar, no wheat) and then try to keep going. even fasting for the better part of a day can be helpful, but a few days to a week+ is ideal.

once you have fasted for a while then add foods back in slowly, because this is a good time to test out your food allergies. add one food at a time slowly, it should be really clear when one of the foods you introduced is causing problems since your system is coming from a cleansed and sensitive state.

herbs and natural medicines - pau d'arco, oil of oregano (diluted intensely), garlic, barberry, tincture of black walnut. cloves/clove oil are good to include as they work to kill off parasites, which often accompany candida. i am also fond of grapefruit seed extract, grapefruit, lemon and any citrus, which i feel do a lot of gentle internal cleansing in the digestive tract.


 
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What Leila said Been there, followed guidelines for foods to eat and not eat and it was like night and day. I had had huge cravings for wheat and sugar especially. They stop after a while without eating those foods. I followed a list of do eat and don't eat that I found on line but I am afraid I don't have any idea anymore where it is.

I added your thread to a couple other forums so more folks can see it...they will reply on this same thread.
 
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Thanks for the info! I know I'm gonna have a hard time with no wheat/bread (carbs). I tried stopping all carbs on a diet I was on one time 2 days in and I was sooo sick major head ache etc. I went another 2 days and couldn't handle it anymore had some toast and peanut butter and with in 30mins I was just fine, head ache disappeared. So obviously I'm addicted to it. But so need to do this I have so many issues (auto-immune related) I seriously need to get a hold of it. If anyone has any type of diet plans, meal planner, recipes etc. that you can share that would be awesome! Cause I'm not real creative with veggies lol!! Thanks again!!
 
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Usually it is better to wean your self off of things over a few weeks to a month instead of going cold turkey.

Here is a site you might want to check out. It gives you a foodlist/diet to help. You can buy supplements or not. I found just going by the diet and foodlist I felt fabulous. http://www.wholeapproach.com/diet/
 
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Misty Rayne wrote:Thanks for the info! I know I'm gonna have a hard time with no wheat/bread (carbs). I tried stopping all carbs on a diet I was on one time 2 days in and I was sooo sick major head ache etc. I went another 2 days and couldn't handle it anymore had some toast and peanut butter and with in 30mins I was just fine, head ache disappeared. So obviously I'm addicted to it. But so need to do this I have so many issues (auto-immune related) I seriously need to get a hold of it. If anyone has any type of diet plans, meal planner, recipes etc. that you can share that would be awesome! Cause I'm not real creative with veggies lol!! Thanks again!!



i feel you, this is really difficult to change your diet.

detoxing is no fun and is gets way worse before it gets better.
when you feel like crap when you first start thats actually a sign that its working and you are detoxing, but it makes it harder to stick with it. after wards you do feel so much noticeably better, and it does get easier once you develop the long term habit for eating healthy.

once you get detoxed and clean out your system and feel better, than it gets easier to cheat and go back to eating junk foods/sugar/wheat, but then you get sensitive to it and notice right away if you start eating things that you shouldnt be. so it helps to stay the course and stick with long term cleansing diet, when you really have no choice but to stick to it and see how much better you feel afterwards.

i got really sick many years ago now, and i really had no choice but to change my diet to a permanant cleansing diet. it is tuff stuff, to stick to it.
i slip up a LOT! oops, well you just have to keep sticking with it, i think the goal has to be long term healthier diet, so i forgive myself for my relapses. when i eat correctly i feel so much better, so i really have no choice.

with veggies you can always make the simple stir fry- whatever is in the pantry thrown into a pan and lightly fried, served with rice or quinoa. one of my staple meals is soup, made about that way- whatever is in the garden or pantry with broth/stock/or especially two cans of coconut milk + some spice, curry, ginger, etc.
 
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Candida is the dominant natural flora on your skin . A healthy candida population on you skin will compete and deter staph , pseudomonas , etc . Since we traveled through the birth canal lactobacillus is the dominant flora in our mouths . A healthy lactobacillus population in our mouths will deter candida from progressing internally . So , don't wash with candida killing soaps and don't gargle with lactobacillus killing mouthwash . Candida is our freind as long as it does not move in with us .
 
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I'm not sure if this mentions Candida, but here's a free book convincing you of the dangers of sugar (and refine wheat products), THE SACCHARINE DISEASE.
 
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does anyone know of a sugar/honey substitute? I tried Stevia in my coffee and I had to dump it out it was undrinkable! and the after taste was terrible!
 
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I thought stevia was horrible too! I use xylitol and I'm also trying Erythritol which has a similar taste but 0 calories and supposedly less of an insulin response. They both will make you think of sugar free gum but it's fine in food or drink.
 
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also really dislike the taste of stevia! its too bad, i want to like it, but i find the taste horrible. the actual raw leaf isnt as bad, but its still not very good, IMO.

my favorite is agave, but many people say its not the healthiest and have concerns about it. but the taste is excellent. i am even trying to grow some agave cactus. honey is also a good choice, it has some healing properties, but one shouldnt have too much of it.

xylitol is the best choice for the healing benefits, and it tastes ok. you cant bake with it cause it wont react with yeasts, but thats why its so good for someone with a systemic yeast infection, like candida.

 
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people with mild candida might not know about it, it can be very subtle...and some people who think that they have it maybe have other related issues. its often a secondary issue that comes up, especially if theres over use of antibiotics . thats how it started for me, then it lingered for years before getting noticeably bad with other health issues. that and working in a bakery and eating WAY too much free bread and baked goodies (baked baddies?!?).

...so "candida" has seemed to come to expand beyond the really intense presentation of it, and maybe isnt really the cause or main issue for someone who self diagnoses. imo it doesnt really matter if they have it exactly right, you dont have to have a name for your "disease", you just have to address it.

seeing candida as the problem doesnt help, you know its tied into all the wrong ideas people get about health and disease. like you got this candida, and you have to kill it off. but rather it indicates diet issues and usually some other kind of health problem, the negative side of antibiotics, malnutrition, vitamin defencies, parasites, allergies, or the effects of years of not eating well (=too much sugar, too much wheat, and too much yeast).

it basically indicates that the digestive system is imbalanced, so the wrong things have taken hold and colonized your digestive tract, and then turning into systemic issues of yeast over growths.

if you have candida or "candy disease" proper and to the point its a major problem, you have intense cravings for sugar, wheat and whatever will continue to make it imbalanced, usually a lot of skin problems, bacne and weird body acne, and problems with your teeth and mouth, like thrush, as well as yeast infections.the foggy head symptom is subtle but really bad. it messes with your head!

anyway i dont care if people get it slightly wrong, there are multiple related conditions all being seen under the candida umbrella, as long as people start addressing it. the treatment for most all of them is the same, you have to change your diet and cleanse the digestive system.

heres a good write up about it i just googled:

http://www.nationalcandidacenter.com/candida-causes/
 
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No time to address the candida directly yet. Here is what I can contribute right now.

If you are not liking the taste of Stevia you are USING TOO MUCH. Try cutting back like 50% and see if it works. It is very concentrated and when I take too much, even the leaf, it has a very powerful taste.
 
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where would I find xylitol ? would it be at a health food store?

yes I would say the main cause of my problem WAS my diet. I was young and stupid and "too busy" to eat right. If it wasn't instant noodles, microwave dinners or be able to be deep fried I didn't eat it. I drank soda like it was going out of style and ate out at fast food joints like 3 times a week! My health started "failing" I was always so tiered and aching and so exhausted some times it was all I could do to get through my shift. Massage didn't help, Chiropractor didn't help, over the counter pain meds did little and this went on for years, the doctor kept telling me "some people just have more aches then others". Finally I went for a second opinion and was diagnosed with Fibromyalgia and arthritis. So I started reading up on these diseases and found a real cause of it was DIET! So I started slowly switching my diet over to little to no refined foods and add in a whole lot more fruits and veggies and I do feel a little better but I am still plagued by other issues as well such as chemical sensitivity and what I believe to be psoriasis (blisters on the palms of my hands and feet) and these little "bumps" all over my arms and legs. So while researching my symptoms I came across Candida and I pretty much match ALL the symptoms. So here I am gathering info and getting ready to to go for it! LOL!!
 
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"Candida infection" is more likely a general kind of immune deficiency, with lowered IgA. Various things, like inflammation and suppressed thyroid function, correlate with lower IgA and probably allow for the fungal overgrowth.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/IgA

"Reversible IgA deficiency in hypothyroidism"
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC2426190/

"IgA Against Gut-Derived Endotoxins"
http://link.springer.com/article/10.1023%2FA%3A1014783815433

 
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Misty Rayne wrote:where would I find xylitol ? would it be at a health food store?



Yes, a health food store but my smaller local one doesn't always have it in stock. With an amazon prime membership or other free shipping, online works too.
 
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Xylitol is naturally found in low concentrations in the fibers of many fruits and vegetables, and can be extracted from various berries, oats, and mushrooms, as well as fibrous material such as corn husks and sugar cane bagasse,[7][8] and birch.[9] However, industrial production starts from xylan (a hemicellulose) extracted from hardwoods[10] or corncobs, which is hydrolyzed into xylose and catalytically hydrogenated into xylitol. A study in rats found that xylitol had reduced or nonexistent side effects compared to other artificial sweeteners, and lower caloric value and cariogenicity than sucrose.[11]



I would not put this in MY body! Too many unnatural and nasty word in that description.
 
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+1 for misty rayne for admitting your problem and facing up to it, and telling your story.

its too easy to rationalize or deny it and keep on not facing up to it. it sucks to have to admit that you were stupid for not eating right, i will also admit this. i dealt with some poverty, skipping too many meals, road trip foods, malnutrition and being a vegetarian for 20 years, eating a lot of "vegetarian" "organic" JUNK FOOD ! and thinking my diet was not that bad, i sometimes ate fresh meals when i could, and i do enjoy healthy food, only my circumstances made it hard to cook wholesome meals alot so i ate a lot of prepackaged stuff. then going for sweets and those carbs, doing the thing where i was craving for real protein and vitamins, and with the defiencies i had, where instead it translates to cravings for sweets and breads until it became worse and worse.

and its escalating downward spiral kept getting worse before i finally started facing it, and dealing with it. one of the major changes in my diet involved becoming an omnivore again, and admitting that i felt a LOT healthier when eating meat. this i suppose goes against all i thought when i was a vegetarian, that you can be healthy when eating vegetarian foods only. i still think thats true for some people, especially those who have access to gardens, fresh foods and resources to purchase a lot of high quality foods, but i couldnt be completely healthy eating only vegetarian meals. and sometimes what passed for a vegetarian meal, like on the road or without adequate cooking facilities, was really lacking in good nutrition.

anyway i applaud you for realizing your issues and taking those first hard steps to deal with it. i've been there too. now i am mostly just trying to get myself to stick with it for life. my self discipline is really not great! but you get to a point where you feel bad and realize how much you feel when you eat right, well its obvious now, i have to stick with cleansing diet for life. anyone who still has the ability to binge on baked baddies and sweets, enjoy it while you can!!! enjoy it a bit extra for me too =) cause i have to try to be disciplined and stick to the cleanse dieting. it does get easier, and the reward of feeling better and having more energy does come.

and yeah doctors are not much help with this, i was also misdiagnosed, early arthritic symptoms and carpal tunnel (which is a contributing factor) or depression, or theres nothing wrong with you after doing what cheap test my crappy insurance would pay for. i even went to the emergency room once, when this and other things had gotten extremely intense, and i was shaking and all messed up not knowing what was wrong with me, only to be told there was nothing wrong with me! well there was, but they dont look for this, and the symptoms are so varied you wouldnt think it all goes together. the aches and pains, the joint problems and skin problems, the chronic fatigue, and digestive issues dont seem to be immediately correlated, but this is the long term suckiness of candida full blown.
 
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leila hamaya wrote:one of the major changes in my diet involved becoming an omnivore again.

Can you eat store bought meat or are you like my wife? When she eats GMO fed meat, ANY FORM, she gets stay in bed sick for days. When she eats grass fed meat (domestic or wild) she can eats LOTS and does.
 
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Steven Feil wrote:

leila hamaya wrote:one of the major changes in my diet involved becoming an omnivore again.

Can you eat store bought meat or are you like my wife? When she eats GMO fed meat, ANY FORM, she gets stay in bed sick for days. When she eats grass fed meat (domestic or wild) she can eats LOTS and does.



i am very careful with buying meat. i have tried a lot of wild meat, that would be my preference. buffalo, elk, venison. theres a lot of grass fed beef around california. mostly i eat fish and chicken, even when i was a veg i ate fish here and there. eggs are also a big part of diet. actually truthfully its still a little weird for me, but i have come to enjoy it.
i decided to be a vegetarian when i was very young, much to my mothers annoyance, trying to feed me meat a lot. when it really all sunk in when i was little that i was totally eating an animal i got naturally turned off from it and never wanted to eat it. so i am still getting used to it, but i for sure feel this is a really healthy thing for me, aside from whatever issues there are with ethical animal foods. its still only like once a week or less, well maybe sometimes more, but its still something i dont eat a lot of, but the boost in health it gave me was really noticeable when i started eating meat.
 
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My wife can't even eat wild caught fish it is so polluted for her. Even some organic is contaminated too much.
 
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Steven Feil wrote:My wife can't even eat wild caught fish it is so polluted for her. Even some organic is contaminated too much.



sounds like MCS ? multiple chemical sensitivity.

o idk, thats all kinda related. chronic fatigue.


seems like its a cumulative effect. like at first the over sensitivity isnt as bad but then it gets worse until just a small amount of the substance sets off a kind of allergic sick reaction.

the antibiotics that people eat contained in the meat certainly dont help with this.

i am not quite that sensitive, well at least not in that way. i can still eat the occasional pizza =) and eating fish is a meal that feels good for me.
 
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Xylitol is naturally found in low concentrations in the fibers of many fruits and vegetables, and can be extracted from various berries, oats, and mushrooms, as well as fibrous material such as corn husks and sugar cane bagasse,[7][8] and birch.[9] However, industrial production starts from xylan (a hemicellulose) extracted from hardwoods[10] or corncobs, which is hydrolyzed into xylose and catalytically hydrogenated into xylitol. A study in rats found that xylitol had reduced or nonexistent side effects compared to other artificial sweeteners, and lower caloric value and cariogenicity than sucrose.[11]



I would not put this in MY body! Too many unnatural and nasty word in that description.



I've come to the conclusion that it's better for me than sugar.
 
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Chemicals are NEVER better for you. Other than the fact that a LARGE percentage of sugar is GMO based (beets) it is natural and the body knows what to do with it. Chemical sweeteners on the other hand.......

Your choice, but I would choose organic or cane sugar of a chemical any day. Learn to use stevia properly and it may fit the bill too. Just don't use the white stuff, get the raw plant based stuff.
 
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i agree, its way way better than cane sugar. i researched it a lot, not that this might mean much to you but it is advocated by a number of doctors, dentists and healers. apparently its rather common in europe, here its a specialty thing at the co op or whole foods market.

if you want the raw thing, tap some birch trees, or get birch syrup.

it actually messes up yeasts and fungus. they think its sugar, it seems like sugar, but its anti fungal and anti bacterial. so its like a bait and switch for the fungus/yeast or bacteria.

i know it does sound kind weird and synthesized, also the name makes it sound more so.
 
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leila hamaya wrote:sounds like MCS ? multiple chemical sensitivity.

o idk, thats all kinda related. chronic fatigue.



Her diet as a child was so crappy. So much sugar and processed carbs. Her mother skimmed the food budget so she could by GOOD food to make and eat with her friends. Nice, eh?

Thanks. Not sure what it is other than she believes it to be candida. She is so spooked by everything it is tough to get her to take a course of action other than to eat better. Anything new scares her to death.


I am confused by your last post. Were you referring to stevia or the chemical sugar stuff?
 
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Steven Feil wrote:Chemicals are NEVER better for you.



Never say never! I think a diabetic would argue the point because sugar would be deadly (sans insulin) and xylitol would not! In a perfect world, I'd drink my coffee black or wouldn't drink it at all.

In a recent podcast Paul caught himself using the word chemical as a pejorative, and switched to the word toxin, I think. Chemicals are all around us.

We all have choices to make. I raise my own meat, some veggies and what little sweetener I use is xylitol except for holiday cookies...
 
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I am confused by your last post. Were you referring to stevia or the chemical sugar stuff?



sorry, i was talking about xylitol. not just a sugar replacement it does have medicinal quality to it.

my favorite is agave, which is a pretty raw product of the agave cactus. the only thing i dont like about it is the price tag! but it is worth it. it is the best as far as taste, IMO, but not as good for healing from bacterial/fungal/yeast infections as xylitol.
 
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as far as i know the process for making xylitol, while industrial and done with fancy equiptment, is actually not as weird as it could sound. i dont know about exactly what it entails, but this is the gist of it as i learnt about it- the get the raw material from the source plant or tree (mainly birch or corncobs) it is treated with ascetic acid (think really strong vinegar) this creates a reaction, then they evaporate off everything but the final product - xylitol.

it is tested and done in a very precise way so that everything used to process it is removed by evaporation. it is widely consider a completely safe non toxic product that has no side effects.it has a positive effect in that it tricks yeasts/fungus/bacteria into thinking it is sugar, they go for it, and then it kills off yeasts and etc.

actually truthfully there is one side effect, but it is considered beneficial, in too large amounts and before your stomach gets used to it , it can have a laxative effect. although this could be getting too gross for public discussion, moving the bowels and getting rid of all the funky gunk in the intenstines and digestive systems is the goal here. no fun, gross (especially if you are just starting detoxing) but neccessary. possibly some people have a harder time with the one side effect, because theres so much funky gunk that the xylitol is attacking that it can cause a very strong laxative effect as the digestive system needs to eliminate all the funkiness. fasting also helps with this, again gross, but even when nothing is going in theres stuff coming out! and better out than in! thats the digestive system cleaning itself out when you give it a break by fasting.

its ok if you dont believe me though, and i know people are weary of chemicals and toxins, so make up your own mind.

i do prefer agave, and a lot of people started dissing agave and saying its not that great, even the totally raw stuff for various reasons. i still continue to think its a good and fairly pure product, but it is still sugar. no where near as bad as cane sugar (the worst) but much better. if you dont have a lot of digestive system problems and just want a healthy alternative sweetener in moderation, i think agave or raw honey is the way to go. if you do have distive problems and yeast over growths or bacterial or fungal infection - xylitol is the way to go. IMO of course.

but you cant just think because its an alternative sugar you can eat it all the time. i am wimp about discipline as i stated, so without the crutches of the alternative sugars i probably wouldve gone back to eating too much cane sugar and not been able to do my cleansing. it is much much better if you can just quit cold turkey, but i am weak willed !!! so agave and xylitol helped me a lot.

 
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HFCS was and is considered a safe product as well, except all of the GMO corn used (which the cobs for xylitol most likely uses). Plus all the processing it goes through with all the chemicals involved.

This sounds a bit better except the GMO corn used. No sense wasting a great poison.
 
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My experience with the synthetic sugar alcohols like xylitol is that unless you only use them once a week or less, the body will adapt to them and they no longer 'work'. Presumably the necessary bacteria to digest them start to breed, in which case if you use it regularly it will probably be no better for diabetics or candida than natural sugar.
 
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Steven Feil wrote:
This sounds a bit better except the GMO corn used. No sense wasting a great poison.



I've used 2 types of xylitol, one from GMO free corn and the other used birch trees instead of corn.
 
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Burra Maluca wrote:My experience with the synthetic sugar alcohols like xylitol is that unless you only use them once a week or less, the body will adapt to them and they no longer 'work'. Presumably the necessary bacteria to digest them start to breed, in which case if you use it regularly it will probably be no better for diabetics or candida than natural sugar.



Wow, that's the first I've heard of that! I know that I've had a much harder time losing weight with low carb this go 'round, though that is not uncommon, particularly for a woman of a certain age.

So, is this purely your own experience or have you heard/read of others with similar results? I have recently tried erythititol which tastes similar to xylitol but at least anecdotally for some people produces less of an insulin response.
 
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Here's a good post on erythritol. I'm going to research further about whether the body can eventually adapt to sugar alcohols, provoking an insulin response. If anyone finds any links about this, please post.
 
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Burra Maluca wrote:My experience with the synthetic sugar alcohols like xylitol is that unless you only use them once a week or less, the body will adapt to them and they no longer 'work'. Presumably the necessary bacteria to digest them start to breed, in which case if you use it regularly it will probably be no better for diabetics or candida than natural sugar.



Wow, that's the first I've heard of that! I know that I've had a much harder time losing weight with low carb this go 'round, though that is not uncommon, particularly for a woman of a certain age.

So, is this purely your own experience or have you heard/read of others with similar results? I have recently tried erythititol which tastes similar to xylitol but at least anecdotally for some people produces less of an insulin response.



First, my own experience about ten years ago when I was lo-carb. I would occasionally 'cheat' with those fake-sugar sweets. So long as it was occasional I would have no blood-sugar spike and the associated 'loose stools'. Then I managed to find someone selling off a load of fake sugar chocolate really, really cheap and I bought a whole load of them. After three days my blood sugars were spiking terribly, weight was pouring back on and my stools had returned to normal. Being me, and having an incredibly sweet tooth, I experimented until I'd run out chocolate and found that if I took a week off I could get away with one dose of fake a sugar a week.

Then a slightly different version of the experiment a few years later with my bedridden uncle who was taking daily laxatives and insisted on his daily dose of lactulose, another indigestible synthetic sugar. He had been taking this stuff for years and as far as I could tell it was having no effect whatsoever so I 'tested' it by taking a dose myself, and it worked fine on me. It also tasted just like sugar-syrup - no wonder he liked his daily dose! So I mixed up some ordinary sugar syrup and gave him that instead for six days, then back to the lactulose. And it worked! And it carried on working so long as only gave it once a week. I made life simpler for myself by putting the dose in his porridge in the morning so it was harder for him to spot any difference, but that regime worked for several years for me until his system slowed down so much I had to resort to much stronger laxatives rather than 'stool softeners'.
 
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I haven't found any non-anecdotal evidence that xylitol spikes blood sugar but this was interesting and sort of OT from Wikipedia:

Common yeast cells used in effectly fermenting and producing xylitol are Candida tropicalis and Candida guilliermondii.



So, Candida can produce xylitol but that doesn't mean it can consume xylitol.

Interesting.
 
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Cj Verde wrote:I haven't found any non-anecdotal evidence that xylitol spikes blood sugar but this was interesting and sort of OT from Wikipedia:

Common yeast cells used in effectly fermenting and producing xylitol are Candida tropicalis and Candida guilliermondii.



So, Candida can produce xylitol but that doesn't mean it can consume xylitol.

Interesting.



thats really weird! i didnt know about any of this.

just googled and found some things that said they were experimenting with other kinds of candida and fermented xylose, to try to lower the cost of production of xylitol. perhaps this is experimental, or maybe theres a lot of different ways to do it.

maybe worth pointing out that the candida in the digestive tract is candida albicans- a different kind that what was quoted here.

if i find a good link i will post it.
 
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