• Post Reply Bookmark Topic Watch Topic
  • New Topic
permaculture forums growies critters building homesteading energy monies kitchen purity ungarbage community wilderness fiber arts art permaculture artisans regional education skip experiences global resources cider press projects digital market permies.com pie forums private forums all forums
this forum made possible by our volunteer staff, including ...
master stewards:
  • Nancy Reading
  • Carla Burke
  • John F Dean
  • Timothy Norton
  • r ransom
  • Jay Angler
  • Pearl Sutton
stewards:
  • Devaka Cooray
  • Leigh Tate
  • paul wheaton
master gardeners:
  • Christopher Weeks
gardeners:
  • M Ljin
  • thomas rubino
  • Megan Palmer

hibiscus? Roselle!

 
Posts: 10000
Location: a temperate, clay/loam spot on planet earth, the universe
3145
4
  • Likes 7
  • Mark post as helpful
  • send pies
    Number of slices to send:
    Optional 'thank-you' note:
  • Quote
  • Report post to moderator
another happy surprise in my 'going to seed' flower mix!

Is it hibiscus?
might it make seed this late in the year?
I assume an annual?
IMG_20251010_133327_187-2.jpg
[Thumbnail for IMG_20251010_133327_187-2.jpg]
IMG_20251010_133308_375-2.jpg
[Thumbnail for IMG_20251010_133308_375-2.jpg]
IMG_20251010_133337_472-2.jpg
[Thumbnail for IMG_20251010_133337_472-2.jpg]
IMG_20251010_133337_472-3.jpg
[Thumbnail for IMG_20251010_133337_472-3.jpg]
 
gardener
Posts: 1831
Location: the mountains of katuah, southern appalachia
603
forest garden trees foraging chicken food preservation wood heat
  • Likes 8
  • Mark post as helpful
  • send pies
    Number of slices to send:
    Optional 'thank-you' note:
  • Quote
  • Report post to moderator
looks like maybe roselle? the calyxes around the flowers are used for tea, either dried or fresh.
 
steward
Posts: 18333
Location: USDA Zone 8a
4651
dog hunting food preservation cooking bee greening the desert
  • Likes 3
  • Mark post as helpful
  • send pies
    Number of slices to send:
    Optional 'thank-you' note:
  • Quote
  • Report post to moderator
Hibiscus or maybe a hollyhock.

I believe hibiscus would not be cold hardy though hollyhock would be cold hardy and perennial.

Lucky you, either way.
 
Anne Miller
steward
Posts: 18333
Location: USDA Zone 8a
4651
dog hunting food preservation cooking bee greening the desert
  • Likes 2
  • Mark post as helpful
  • send pies
    Number of slices to send:
    Optional 'thank-you' note:
  • Quote
  • Report post to moderator
Greg knows a lot more about plants than I do though the leaves look wrong for roselle:

Roselle has a 3 to 4 month growing cycle and does well in zones 7 through 10. Those living in zones 6 and lower would have difficulty as it is a plant that requires more tropical environments to survive.



https://growhoss.com/blogs/growing-guides/roselle
 
steward & manure connoisseur
Posts: 4786
Location: South of Capricorn
2752
dog rabbit urban cooking writing homestead ungarbage
  • Likes 4
  • Mark post as helpful
  • send pies
    Number of slices to send:
    Optional 'thank-you' note:
  • Quote
  • Report post to moderator
I would agree, roselle (hibiscus sabdariffa), the lobed leaves and calyx. there are a gazillion varieties.
And I also agree, even here in 9b it's hard to make it grow. My uncle in zone 10, his are enormous bushes that can take over an entire lot. some years i have better luck than others!
 
Judith Browning
Posts: 10000
Location: a temperate, clay/loam spot on planet earth, the universe
3145
4
  • Likes 2
  • Mark post as helpful
  • send pies
    Number of slices to send:
    Optional 'thank-you' note:
  • Quote
  • Report post to moderator
Roselle it is!
Any advice on harvest?
we'll have a frost in the next two weeks so I doubt I get seed but would like to use the calyx and flowers and leaves if possible.
IMG_20251018_094408_436-2.jpg
[Thumbnail for IMG_20251018_094408_436-2.jpg]
IMG_20251018_094402_470-2.jpg
[Thumbnail for IMG_20251018_094402_470-2.jpg]
IMG_20251018_094416_887-2.jpg
[Thumbnail for IMG_20251018_094416_887-2.jpg]
 
gardener
Posts: 1619
Location: Zone 5
828
ancestral skills forest garden foraging composting toilet fiber arts bike medical herbs seed writing ungarbage
  • Likes 4
  • Mark post as helpful
  • send pies
    Number of slices to send:
    Optional 'thank-you' note:
  • Quote
  • Report post to moderator
Hibiscus does grow in cold climates. I have seen both in the wild in Massachusetts, as well as in gardens both there and here: swamp rose mallow.They are a good cordage plant too.  https://gobotany.nativeplanttrust.org/species/hibiscus/moscheutos/


And don’t forget Rose of Sharon is a hibiscus and very cold hardy; I have seen them around houses here! https://gobotany.nativeplanttrust.org/species/hibiscus/syriacus/

There supposedly is an annual sort too, I have not seen. https://gobotany.nativeplanttrust.org/species/hibiscus/trionum/

Then there are probably many that grow in other parts too…

Edit: oh! Roselle is also in the hibiscus genus. Maybe some plants are not so much referred to by that name particularly?
 
gardener
Posts: 616
Location: Boudamasa, Chad
236
2
forest garden
  • Likes 3
  • Mark post as helpful
  • send pies
    Number of slices to send:
    Optional 'thank-you' note:
  • Quote
  • Report post to moderator
Judith, did you ever get to harvest? I suppose I'm too late. Calix and leaves can be used for tea. Best if dried out first, but a short boil will brew the fresh ones nicely too.
 
Judith Browning
Posts: 10000
Location: a temperate, clay/loam spot on planet earth, the universe
3145
4
  • Likes 6
  • Mark post as helpful
  • send pies
    Number of slices to send:
    Optional 'thank-you' note:
  • Quote
  • Report post to moderator

Nathanael Szobody wrote:Judith, did you ever get to harvest? I suppose I'm too late. Calix and leaves can be used for tea. Best if dried out first, but a short boil will brew the fresh ones nicely too.


We did pick a few calix for a very nice tea but I had hopes we might get some seed so left most of the flowers.  I even dug one and brought it inside to finish up and there are what might be seed pods but I really don't know what the seeds look like as I didn't know I planted them in the first place😏
 
pollinator
Posts: 455
Location: Oz; Centre South
108
trees books cooking fiber arts writing
  • Likes 7
  • Mark post as helpful
  • send pies
    Number of slices to send:
    Optional 'thank-you' note:
  • Quote
  • Report post to moderator
Australia has Hibiscus sabdariffa which looks a lot like the one in your pictures, Judith.  Here fruits (?calyses) are picked and used to make jam if there is ever a time when there is enough - I'd mix with apple if only a few fruits available.
 
Posts: 87
17
2
  • Likes 7
  • Mark post as helpful
  • send pies
    Number of slices to send:
    Optional 'thank-you' note:
  • Quote
  • Report post to moderator
I like to snack on the calyxes like popcorn. Nice and tart. From what I've read, the whole plant is edible.
 
Nathanael Szobody
gardener
Posts: 616
Location: Boudamasa, Chad
236
2
forest garden
  • Likes 5
  • Mark post as helpful
  • send pies
    Number of slices to send:
    Optional 'thank-you' note:
  • Quote
  • Report post to moderator

Judith Browning wrote:
We did pick a few calix for a very nice tea but I had hopes we might get some seed so left most of the flowers.  I even dug one and brought it inside to finish up and there are what might be seed pods but I really don't know what the seeds look like as I didn't know I planted them in the first place😏



Here are seeds and a pod
20260110_151425.jpg
[Thumbnail for 20260110_151425.jpg]
 
Judith Browning
Posts: 10000
Location: a temperate, clay/loam spot on planet earth, the universe
3145
4
  • Likes 4
  • Mark post as helpful
  • send pies
    Number of slices to send:
    Optional 'thank-you' note:
  • Quote
  • Report post to moderator
Nathanael,
thanks for the photo!
....I opened the three buds from the plant I brought indoors and it looks like I have seed!
The buds are sticky and kind of sparkly as though the sugars? have come to the surface.

The plant has been a back room since before first frost here and really has had no direct sun nor water....I guess I won't know if the seed has matured until planting time.

I think both the buds and seeds look similar to yours but not identical?

IMG_20260110_101431_224-2.jpg
roselle buds and seeds
roselle buds and seeds
 
Nathanael Szobody
gardener
Posts: 616
Location: Boudamasa, Chad
236
2
forest garden
  • Likes 4
  • Mark post as helpful
  • send pies
    Number of slices to send:
    Optional 'thank-you' note:
  • Quote
  • Report post to moderator
Very nice! The small brown ones are not fully developed,  but the plump gray ones look like they might be viable :-)
 
I agree. Here's the link: http://stoves2.com
reply
    Bookmark Topic Watch Topic
  • New Topic