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Solanum pseudolulo anyone?

 
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I was shopping for something else when I stumbled on these: https://www.mattspeppers.com/product-page/solanum-pseudolulo. So of course I ordered them too. Now I have them and I'm wondering if I really want to grow them. Anyone here have any experience with them?

Also, for reference:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Solanum_pseudolulo
https://alchetron.com/Solanum-pseudolulo
 
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It looks like there is a single other mention of this plant on Permies, but search only turns it up if you exclude the genus: https://permies.com/wiki/51209/Breed-Vegetable-Varieties-Carol-Deppe#452605

Also, I've got some germinating but they'll have to adapt to indoor growing conditions...
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pseudolulo have germinated
pseudolulo have germinated
 
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I recall doing a research project on the closely related naranjilla (S. quitoense) while in college.  Naranjilla is also uncommon outside of its native range.  It is also extremely sensitive to nematodes, and cultivating it is one of the things that accelerates slash-and-burn or swidden farming since the naranjilla is the first thing planted on newly cleared land, partly to avoid the nematodes that build up.  My project was grafting the naranjilla onto other nightshades more tolerant of nematodes (Fun fact....almost any nightshade will graft onto any other!)  I found that naranjillas grafted onto eggplant rootstock grew as fast as those on their own roots.  This might be an idea to save if you have nematode problems on your plants.
 
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Alder Burns wrote:Fun fact....almost any nightshade will graft onto any other!


Yeah, one of my goals here is to step up my invasive horticulture skills by creating multiple long approach-grafts between these pseudolulo and tomato plants to see if I can force organelle transfer across the graft boundary and develop something weird. Anything that was obviously different would be interesting enough to justify the experiment even if it wasn't really desirable.
 
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A brief update. You know how tomato plants have a distinctive aroma that’s kind of good when it’s subtle and a little gross when it’s overpowering? These plants have a similar odor, but distinctly different.
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Young plants
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Thorns!
Thorns!
 
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that family is so cool. i like how so far, these guys look like a cross between a ground cherry and a litchi tomato.
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