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Roofs for regenerative hidrology and water harvesting?

 
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Hi ,  I have been researching traditional palm-thatch roofs because, from a permaculture perspective, they seem to offer many advantages.

Besides their bioclimatic benefits—excellent thermal insulation, natural ventilation, beautiful aesthetics, and even positive sensory qualities—they are made from renewable local materials, require very little embodied energy, are biodegradable at the end of their life cycle, and help close nutrient cycles instead of generating waste.

In my case, I am designing a project based on what I call a **Fractal Hydrological Regeneration Network**, where the roof is not just a shelter but an active component of the landscape's hydrology. A palm-thatch roof slows rainfall, disperses it over a wider area, and promotes infiltration, helping retain water within the ecosystem instead of rapidly channeling it away.

However,  now thar im reading Brad Lancaster's "Rainwater Harvesting for Drylands and Beyond", I started questioning this approach.

Lancaster explains that if the goal is to collect rainwater for domestic use and store it in cisterns, the ideal catchment surface is typically a clean, smooth roof made of materials such as metal, slate, tile, or elastomeric coatings. Palm-thatch roofs, on the other hand, can introduce organic matter, dust, and debris into the harvested water.

This raises a design dilemma for me.

I don't want to lose the ecological and hydrological benefits of a palm-thatch roof, but I also want to harvest rainwater for domestic use. What do you think?  I have a lot of questions about this:

Is it possible to design a traditional palm-thatch roof that preserves its hydrological functions while also allowing part of the rainfall to be harvested for domestic water supply?

Are there hybrid designs that combine a palm-thatch roof with a separate clean rainwater catchment system?

Would it make more sense for the palm-thatch roof to focus entirely on ecological and hydrological functions, while collecting drinking water from a different surface designed specifically for rainwater harvesting?

In very high-rainfall regions such as the Amazon, is it even necessary to use the entire roof as a catchment surface, or would a much smaller collection area be sufficient to keep a cistern full throughout the year?

Has anyone built or studied projects that successfully combine traditional palm-thatch roofs with rainwater harvesting systems for domestic use?

I would greatly appreciate hearing from anyone with practical experience or knowledge of existing examples. My goal is to integrate permaculture, regenerative hydrology, and traditional architecture into a single coherent design.


Please help !



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It would be helpful if you gave us some idea of the size of the proposed roof and the typical rainfall patterns.

1. If you reliably get measurable rainfall on a daily basis, math will tell you how much roof you need to collect the amount of water you estimate your needs to be. (Shit happens, so I would err on the side of too much.)

2. I would check the weather history for extreme drought situations and consider that the planet has been breaking many weather records in the last few years.

3. Where do you want to use this water? You state "domestic use", but is that inside the building or elsewhere as well, and is that "elsewhere" at higher or lower elevation than the house?
(For example, a big water use for me, in an area known for summer droughts, is up-hill from our house. Any rainwater capture off the house would have to be pumped to use it.)

4. Are your water needs best served by having some water pressure, or do you just need to fill a bucket or pan from a low-pressure spigot?

5. How large a cistern are you thinking off. Big cisterns full of water are *very* heavy - do the math! It needs to be stable. It also needs to have a large outflow (larger than the inflow if I recall correctly) that needs to be directed to a safe place, ideally somewhere  that it can infiltrate slowly.
 
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