Wouldn't it be great if there was an independent organization to rank fast and fast-ish food? Until there is, Paul is hoping the Permies.com will step up.
This section is strictly a poll/ranking vehicle, if you will, of fast and fast-ish food. This is a 0 - 10 point scale (10 being nothing shy of my kitchen with super fresh goods from our organic farm).
Here are some examples from Paul:
Whole Foods' Food Bar = 7.5
McDonalds = .80
Burger King = .45
OK, I'll start~
Wendy's .6 Reason: the last time I ate there, and I rarely eat mass production fast food, I was sick for 2 days.
Ellwood Thompson in Richmond VA 8.2 Reason: Super fresh, local, organic food with incredibly diligent people prepping, cooking etc. Wonderful variety of local, organic fresh goodies
Location: Currently in Lake Stevens, WA. Home in Spokane
posted 4 years ago
I don't understand how McD got a higher rating than Jack in the Box.
If I was on the road, and starving, and had a choice between the two, I would make a left turn across multiple lanes of oncoming traffic to get to the JINTB.
Subway is probably closer to real food than any other big chain that I know of (but still deserves a ranking of less than '1').
Any place that has a corporate office in another city, probably deserves less than '2'.
(Reminds me of my favorite quote from Eisenhower: "Farming is easy if a pencil is your plow, and your desk sits 50 miles from the corn field.")
Hey John -
Go for broke.....rate Jack in the Box~ They aren't in this neck of the world; all I remember about them is a series of deaths via their burger years and years ago.
that's what this thread is for:
Jack o box......
At some point, it will be great to be able to divide this into subsets per state, country etc. When taking a trip, I'd surely check out places in states where I was passing through or traveling to. Places like Ellwoods' in Richmond VA. This could be extremely cool!!!
even when we traveled a lot we never ate out of prepared food places...we ate really well though out of grocery stores and farmers markets...i could rate them by town even when traveling by train or bus or hitching.....it was fun to wander a new (to us) market and gather things for the next feast.....
"We're all just walking each other home." -Ram Dass
"Be a lamp, or a lifeboat, or a ladder."-Rumi
“When it is understood that one loses joy and happiness in the attempt to possess them, the essence of natural farming will be realized. The ultimate goal of farming is not the growing of crops, but the cultivation and perfection of human beings.”
― Masanobu Fukuoka, The One-Straw Revolution
I would think we need to have some form of criteria upon which we make assessments so we rank fast food somewhat consistently. Here are a few to consider ...
Taste (very subjective, but it's key)
Quality (fresh, well produced, well presented, etc.)
Value (cost to quality/taste ratio)
Environment (the non-food experience of the place, including drive through)
Bio friendliness (healthfulness of the food)
Earth friendliness (imagined impact to the planet, efficiency of operation, source of materials, etc.)
Apparent employment practices
Wildcard (any quirk or quality unique to that place)
We could even assign a numeral value to each of the criteria, weight them and eventually calculate down to the 10-point scale. Even then, knowing the rankings of each of the criteria would be good for me to know. For example, I would want to know what places scored well on the "value" criterion more so than I want to know about the "environment" criterion. Maybe the scale works like this ...
Taste - 20 points possible
Quality - 20 points possible
Value - 15 points possible
Environment - 5 points possible
Bio friendliness - 15 points possible
Earth friendliness - 15 points possible
Apparent employment practices - 5 points possible
Wildcard criteria - 5 points possible
So if a restaurant totaled 68 points, that would then calculate to a final WRFF score of 6.8 (Wheaton Ranking of Fast Food)
Giggle among yourselves Remember, we're not comparing fast food to our best restaurants and watering holes, but among fast food.
Chipotle -- a WRFF score of 6.6
Taste - 13 points
Quality - 16 points
Value - 4 points
Environment - 5 points
Bio friendliness - 11 points
Earth friendliness - 10 points (way too many people working at one time, inefficient)
Apparent employment practices - 3 points
Wildcard criteria - 4 points (love the music and their digital marketing)
There are a bunch of restaurants serving the tourists in our town. All the food arrives on Fridays on two shiny trucks, two competing national food distributors. It's hard to make your food taste above average than the place across the street if you all get it from the same place.
So I give points off for percentage of food arriving in one of the silver metal trucks. There is one place that tries to use local produce, another that uses local eggs. We try to support them first.