Electrosensitivity - Can Earth-Sheltered and/or Earthen-Walled Structures Help Us?

Pearl Sutton wrote:... If the foil is reaching a ground, it might be helping. Concrete floor might be enough ground for thin foil.
Check your phone in there!

The phone bars are sooo... inconsistent around here, it's difficult to tell, however, it seems I get more bars in the basement than in the office by the WiFi - so does WiFi decrease your cell phone bars?

Alex Ronan wrote:Anyone try making curtains or wall/floor coverings out of faraday cloth? https://amzn.to/3CnJruk

That's more expensive than I can afford. I drool at it sometimes
I've heard it works well

Jay Angler wrote:

Pearl Sutton wrote:... If the foil is reaching a ground, it might be helping. Concrete floor might be enough ground for thin foil.
Check your phone in there!

The phone bars are sooo... inconsistent around here, it's difficult to tell, however, it seems I get more bars in the basement than in the office by the WiFi - so does WiFi decrease your cell phone bars?

Not usually ,no.
Other factors going on, no guess what....
If there's good bars in the basement, the foil bubble wrap stuff isn't working.  

Pearl Sutton wrote:I'm still trashed from the CME and some other factors, not thinking easily today. But thinking about what Kate said about clay paint makes me wonder why sheetrock doesn't block much EMF, a small amount, but not much. Wondering about cement board. Thinking how I can test it. I'm going to the city tomorrow, I'll take my RF meter to a lumberyard, see if I can test it somehow.

A lot of us are dealing with building codes, can't get away with a lot of earth sheltering. That's why I keep looking at stuff codes won't argue with.

The rooms in my house that have cement sheeting walls don't get phone reception, so there might be something to it. Our phone signal is not great, and the strongest signal is on the eastern side of the house, the cement wall rooms are on the west, so it could just be because of that.

Hello again, Pearl.

You said:

"I'm still trashed from the CME and some other factors, not thinking easily today."

The solar dimension to this is re-shaping my thinking somewhat...

SO.  Right out of the stalls, let's steal the doubters' thunder. The analytical 'me' sees a possibly-useful distinction between sensitivity to solar flares and CMEs.

If you are feeling solar flares shortly after they occur, this suggests to me that you may be sensitive to solar RF which has passed through the 'radio window'. Radio, below about 9MHz would mostly be reflected back into space. Above 100GHz, radio waves are absorbed by atmospheric gases like water vapor and CO₂. That leaves the 9MHz to 100GHz range - the band of frequencies which can pass the Earth's atmosphere and reach the surface in appreciable quantities.

CMEs (which travel at sub-light velocities) arrive at Earth after solar outbursts (typically - so they sayyy - in 1-3 days). If your symptoms correlate with the arrival of CMEs, it seems more likely that they are being triggered by the interaction of solar plasma with the Earth's magnetosphere. That humans might have vestigial magnetoreception - which in your case has become consciously accessible - isn't as daffy as it may seem -- though the experience probably shouldn't be painful! (The other possibility that comes to mind is that you may be sensitive to GICs - or their effects on our electrical systems.)

There's a lot to think about here...

Thanks again for your input.

None of this sounds fun, btw!! =[~

Just out of curiosity, Pearl - have you ever worn a piece of genuine shungite against your skin?

Donner: I feel the flares. I feel the CMEs. I feel the cell towers. I feel the 5 g. ALL of the above.

I don't have shungite, I have a different type of blocker I wear. It DOES help, but not enough. When i got it the noise went down from so loud I couldn't pick it apart to quieter enough that I could start to understand what was doing what parts. Example: hospitals used to just scream horribly, now I can say there are 5 of 6 flavors of energy coming off each one, that's why they hurt so much, they throw multiple layers. 5g screams, but only in one tone. Before I got this, I could only say "It screams" now I can differentiate it more. Like wearing foam earplugs in a noisy disco, it takes the noise down only a small amount, and you still have the flashing lights and people bumping into you.

I have some theories why I'm so hypersensitive, but nothing I have energy to attempt to explain, has to do with my entire (complex and strange) medical history.

Mostly I think it's a normal sense, that it's not so much I am aware of it, as that most people are not. Lack of that awareness might be worse, in the long run, than being blasted by it. The fact that there is enough EMF pullution to blast this loud, and there are good reasons to believe it causes body damage in people whether they are aware of it or not, not knowing when you are being affected might be worse than knowing. Carbon monoxide kills because it's invisible and odor free. If you don't KNOW you are being poisoned, that keeps you from doing anything to mitigate it.

And to tie all this back to the initial question that started this thread, before I derailed it, I definitely think earth sheltered homes  would be best.
The logistics of that in many ways are problematic, but it WOULD be best.

I'm trying to hack through logistics to figure out what the best I can realistically do is.

The promised data!
I DID end up at Home Depot!!   (was 50/50 whether Home Depot or Lowes was the one I was closest to) Past 5:00 PM so it was pretty well deserted in the building supplies area, no one even noticed I was wandering the aisles and messing with things.

Methodology: 1/4 inch thick board was slid diagonally off the stack about so about 18 inches were overhanging. I took a reading on the meter straight up toward the florescent lights were, then moved the meter still pointing up under the overhang and read it again. The meter was fluctuating on all readings, I notated average low and high numbers on the RF tab of my meter.

I did both Durock and HardieBacker Board the same way.

Durock:  First reading:  28-62      Second reading (under it): 12-32
HardieBacker Board: First reading 15-40   Second reading (under it):  4-10

So both did block a noticeable amount, HardieBacker board (which is heavier and smoother than Durock but not labeled) is smoother and would be a good close to finished surface, whereas Durock is a heavily textured board to adhere tile to well, it would require a surface finish if it was to be visible and it mattered. I have worked with Durock before, it's fairly well behaved except for the weight. Uncertain about HardieBacker board.

At Home Depot the 3x5 x .25 inch boards of each are priced at
Durock:   $11.56
HardieBacker: $12.85

Things for me to think about.....

Well done, Pearl! This could be why cell reception is so miserable inside my house...cement weatherboard cladding (and it's almost certainly Hardieboard, since that is the dominant brand here and quite possibly the only game in town thirty years ago).

Alex Ronan wrote:Anyone try making curtains or wall/floor coverings out of faraday cloth? https://amzn.to/3CnJruk

The EMF sensitive person that I know says that faraday fabric only blocks EMFs when it is completely sealed, so he wouldn’t think this would work well for curtains, as the EMFs would sneak in through the gaps. He’s also bought a couple of different batches of faraday fabric from Amazon and found that the quality varies - the first batch worked fine as sealed bags, but the second lot was useless. Ready-made faraday bags seem to vary in quality too, one of his bags blocks things well, but other ones aren’t as good.

From a construction point of view, durock gets scored and snapped just like drywall, but you used a special carbide knife. You can use a regular utility knife, but the blade only lasts a cut or two. Hardie can be cut with a circular saw, they make special blades ($50ish) but last much longer and cut much cleaner than a regular carbide blade. WEAR A DUST MASK.

I used 1/2 Inch Hardie as a direct replacement for drywall behind my wood stove in my old house.  Taped and mudded it to the drywall outside the “clearance to combustible” area. It took an extra coat of paint to get the texture to match but otherwise finished the same as drywall.