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stevia - growing and using

 
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My thanks to Burra on her extracts report!
My son is keen on growing our own stevia. Thus far, all the processed stuff I have tried consistently gives me a headache.
He is convinced this is due to the processing, but he is leaning on a " nature good, artifice bad" way of thinking.
Still, the glycerin extract sounds promising,as does the alcohol based one.
Any concern over botulism in the glycerin? An extreme worry perhaps, but we are warned about garlic in oil being a possible source....
 
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Any concern over botulism in the glycerin? An extreme worry perhaps, but we are warned about garlic in oil being a possible source....


My understanding is that botulism requires anaerobic dark conditions. Therefor use a tall thin glass container and rotate it in the sun after each shake so that the ultra violet counters the anaerobic condition.
 
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Using stevia leaves

For what it's worth, I understand that the "good" properties of stevia leaves that are helpful against diabetes, are also associated with the off/bitter taste some stevia plants have.  These parts are removed in refining to make the white commercial stevia powders and commercial extracts. So with a commercial product you get a calorie-free natural sweetener but no other health benefits. The natural leaf and the commercial products I think are quite different health-wise, so we should be clear when we're talking about "stevia" whether we're talking about the natural leaf or the refined commercial products. I prefer to get the health benefits of the leaf too, so I am oriented towards finding grow-your-own/DIY ways to minimize any bitterness in natural stevia leaves. And just generally use stevia leaves successfully in various ways.

Drying the leaves. I didn't know this, but now that I've read it I'd have to agree with other people above who've said that any bitterness is removed or greatly reduced by drying. I almost always use the leaves dried and the last few years I haven't had any bitterness problems. I keep whole leaves for teas and such, and grind them up really fine and sieve them for use in recipes.

Combining with other sweeteners. OK, this is not a purist thing and my other ingredients are not DIY, but I have often used stevia leaves for about half the sweetening power in a recipe, and then some combination of coconut sugar, xylitol, honey, brown sugar, or evaporated cane juice for the other half of the sweeting power. I almost never notice any difference in taste this way from the original recipe. And from there I experiment as time permits with pushing the stevia envelope and pushing the proportion of stevia higher without anyone noticing a difference in taste.

DIY extracts. This is an area I haven't tried but am interested in. Alcohol extracts, glycerines, water-based... I'd love to hear people's experiences, what extraction method to use, hot or cold, fresh or dried, how long to macerate... etc. ¿?

Improving the plant product. For best flavor. Selecting out bitterness in the plants themselves when planting from seed as described above. Experimenting with soil quality, watering regime, sun exposure, etc. Also when to harvest the leaves for best flavor. I read an article years ago about when to harvest and now have forgotten and can't find it anymore. Personal experiences, anyone?

How much to use. When swapping out for sugar in a recipe. The commercial products sometimes tell you. But no one seems to say anything about how much ground-up stevia leaf to use. At least as a guideline, because I believe different plants can have fairly different sweetness levels, they're not a "normalized" commercial product. I would love to hear what people say in this regard, and to start, I'll just throw out there a starting-off point I often use to experiment: a somewhat heaping tablespoon of powdered leaves to substitute for 1 cup of sugar.

Ways to compensate other properties of sugar. So sugar dissolves fairly easily, caramelizes when heated, can make a crusty surface when heated in another way, can add a crunchy texture sometimes, etc. Some recipes need these properties and it's interesting to hear what people do to get the characteristics they want in another way.

So there, I've got a few ideas to contribute and I wanted to revive this thread and get ideas from other stevia leaf experimenters out there. And if any of the old hands on the thread above want to pipe in with the results of their previous experiments, I'd be interested! Thanks, hopefully this can be a contribution to our health and our self-sufficiency!
 
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Thank you for reviving this thread!

I've got one stevia plant that is going through its second winter indoors in a south-facing window. It's looking healthy. The pot is not even one gallon, so reading this thread, I've decided to pot it up in spring. The room it is in is cool all winter, like 12-16C at night (50s F), but it gets good direct sun.

I like using dried stevia leaves in milky Indian tea and in mixed herbal tea.

I've heard that boiling stevia brings up that bitterness, so when using it in place of sugar, I add it after the heat is off. For that reason it's not recommended for baking. Stevia extract or powder works great in lemon curd and custard, and sugar isn't needed for the consistency or texture of those (it's the egg that does it) so it works perfectly. I add it at the end. And to be honest, I've used mostly stevia powder instead of sugar in lemon curd and custard several times and people never even guess, and they love it!

My homegrown dried leaves aren't as sweet as the ones I bought on amazon. Reading this thread reminds me I should start some of the leftover seeds I have and see if any come up sweeter than the one I've got.
 
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Speaking of baking, I just used it in a carrot cake, both in the cake part and in the frosting.

The result of the cake part, I'd have to say, is a pass. I also changed to gluten-free flours and also changed leavening (bicarbonate + lemon juice), so it wasn't a scientific comparison, but the cake part is pretty good and I'm satisfied.

The cream cheese frosting, which originally called for 500g of powdered sugar (the kind with cornstarch added) is a pale, green shadow of its former self though. It lacks that "sparkle" and sharpness the sugar gives it, and also the texture is meh. So I will either have to keep experimenting a lot, or ditch the idea, and for instance, just have some of our great, local sheep's milk cheese for dessert (mmm.... ) instead of baking a carrot cake. It's tempting but if I get the knack of stevia-leaf-sweetened frosting I will try to remember to report back here.
 
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So there, I've got a few ideas to contribute and I wanted to revive this thread and get ideas from other stevia leaf experimenters out there. And if any of the old hands on the thread above want to pipe in with the results of their previous experiments, I'd be interested! Thanks, hopefully this can be a contribution to our health and our self-sufficiency!


My primary use of the leaves is to complement things that are too bitter or bland so I don't worry about the slight bitterness.  For coffee I put a 5 finger pinch of the leaves in the mill and put the beans on top and whiz it up fine. Works the same with cacao and I often use both cacao and coffee together.  I have an eversion to food that is too sweet so  I have little experience with such preparations but will be experimenting with fermenting juice where all the fructose gets consumed and it tastes too dry/sour.  I thought my plant was going to overwinter in the greenhouse but all the leaves have started to dry so I need to harvest it before they fall. This one had smaller leaves but verry sweet and easy to harvest.  By whizzing up the stems in the coffee mill or blender they become a fluffy fiber which is easy to extract the sweetness from; that has expanded my usable production.
I lost a large leaf plant last year because after I took it out of the greenhouse a deer came along and bit it off then dropped it because it did not taste good. At least I was able to harvest it but not much production.
Would appreciate any tips on getting them to produce seed and getting them to start from seed.   Also my attempts to root cuttings have failed.  One of my plant providers is passionate about stevia so he always has them  in stock in the spring.
 
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Hans Quistorff wrote:
My primary use of the leaves is to complement things that are too bitter or bland so I don't worry about the slight bitterness.  For coffee I put a 5 finger pinch of the leaves in the mill and put the beans on top and whiz it up fine. Works the same with cacao and I often use both cacao and coffee together.  



Ohhh now that's an idea. I generally drink my coffee black and unsweetened now but occasionally I like something a bit sweeter. I could just drop a few stevia leaves in the grinder when I grind up my coffee beans and then make it in the French press. Worth a try! I have never like the taste of commercial stevia extract in coffee (I love it in tea though), so maybe this is a way for me to like it in coffee.
 
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I just read a new health-recovery article focusing upon -- Stevia -- as a cure for Lyme Disease;  I'm passing along the link.  I keep hoping that some natural remedy will be good for all sorts of tick-bite troubles, including Rocky Mountain Spotted Fever  that my adult son acquired a few years ago (he was weakened by that for at least 3 months).

By the way, Sayer Ji, founder of GreenMed.com has an extensive knowledge base of research studies on various foods, nutrients, etc. that may interest some readers.  

https://greenmedinfo.com/blog/stevia-kills-lyme-disease-pathogen-better-antibiotics-preclinical-study
Stevia Kills Lyme Disease Pathogen Better Than Antibiotics (Preclinical Study)
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Thursday, September 22nd 2022 at 6:30 am
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Sayer Ji, Founder
 
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Kept it in the greenhouse so the deer would not nip it off. They did not eat it last year but they did nip the top off and then spit it out.
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Barbara Ziegler wrote: STEVIA is very toxic to the Liver. So is Tylenol...

Be Well everyone!



 Stevia is certainly not even close to Tylenol in terms of toxicity. However some nasty preparations that do use sucralose, maltodextrin and things can be. If you grow your own, and add to your tea mixes, it might actually be healing. It is used for Lyme disease, but for this one needs to wait until tincture gets bitter to extract active compounds.
 We grow stevia, and I love it. Just do not overdo -small amount (like 1/4 teaspoon in 2 people tea pot will do.)
 
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