Idle dreamer
Joseph Lofthouse wrote:
They get tilled right back in where they grew.
Idle dreamer
Tyler Ludens wrote:
Joseph Lofthouse wrote:
They get tilled right back in where they grew.
See, to me tilling is an industrial activity, more than mulching. And irrigating, kind of industrial. I guess it depends on what you're used to doing, how industrial it seems....
Idle dreamer
Kerstin Mengewein wrote:Hi guys,
hope you can clear things up for me.
I have been reading about soils and fertilizing, have asked my PDC teacher, but still I am left wondering about this topic.
If I want to grow peas and beans which do need poorer soils what's the use of mulching, irrigating with compost tea and so on, all to improve my soil and fertilize it if they won't grow there? This question the other way round: If I improve my soils as everywhere discriped in permaculture books doesn't this mean that I will eventially develop soils that I won't be able to grow beans and peas in?
The question is about the concept of over-fertilized soils that I don't get. In my understanding every plant root looks for food and takes in nutriens as much as it wants. It's not that the plants are force-fed, right? So why wouln't beans and peas (and other plants of course that like poorer soils) grow in my good soils? Is it like a villager comes into a major city and doesn't feel comfortable even though he is not forced to interact with everybody? How do you guys then grow such plants, do you leave some areas of your garden bed "poor"?
Thanks for helping me understand soils better =)
Regards from the Netherlands,
Kerstin
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Kerstin Mengewein wrote:Hi guys,
hope you can clear things up for me.
I have been reading about soils and fertilizing, have asked my PDC teacher, but still I am left wondering about this topic.
If I want to grow peas and beans which do need poorer soils what's the use of mulching, irrigating with compost tea and so on, all to improve my soil and fertilize it if they won't grow there? This question the other way round: If I improve my soils as everywhere discriped in permaculture books doesn't this mean that I will eventially develop soils that I won't be able to grow beans and peas in?
The question is about the concept of over-fertilized soils that I don't get. In my understanding every plant root looks for food and takes in nutriens as much as it wants. It's not that the plants are force-fed, right? So why wouln't beans and peas (and other plants of course that like poorer soils) grow in my good soils? Is it like a villager comes into a major city and doesn't feel comfortable even though he is not forced to interact with everybody? How do you guys then grow such plants, do you leave some areas of your garden bed "poor"?
Thanks for helping me understand soils better =)
Regards from the Netherlands,
Kerstin
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Angelika Maier wrote:There is a reason why permaculture comes from Australia. And why aborigines did not do agriculture. If Joseph would have his farm in typical Australian soil he would possibly wheep all day long.
American soil is one of the best world wide (at least what I know). There is a reason why most cultures has farm animals apart from the milk and the meat.
Is putting muck on the land bringing something from outside? Or using sawdust in the compost rather than bringing it to the tip? Or what to do with woodchips, true a sustainable society does not produce woodchips, but woodchips are procuced and it helped my "soil" so much. We're not sustainable and collecting the remains of the industrial society.
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