Want to Buy - Wild lettuce Lactuca Virosa, Astragalus, or Devil's Claw Proboscidea parviflora Seeds

I am looking to buy Wild lettuce seeds [Lactuca Virosa], Astragalus or Devil's Claw [Proboscidea parviflora] seeds.

Not sure which genus for Astragalus.  One called milky vetch for Monarch butterflies.

Please let me know if anyone has seeds for these they would like to sell.

JLhudson seems to have them both: Lactuca and Proboscidea.

I have loads of Devil's Claw seeds.  I'd be happy to send you some.  I'm not sure which species mine are, possibly louisianica.

I don't have any wild lettuce seed saved at the moment. Will probably have some it june.

What do I have to do do purchase some wild lettuce seeds I have American Express and live in Hawaii names Edward russo

Welcome to Permies Edward!

I don't save the seed myself. I always have enough volunteers in my garden. If after a couple days, nobody no one offers to sell any, take a Internet trip over to Strictly Medicinal Seeds. They have seeds for lots of wild foods, some vegetables, as well as, of course, medicinal plants.

Here is a direct link to their wild lettuce.

After asking for seeds in 2017, this wild lettuce just popped up ...

We never got around trying to use it for pain.

Now I try to rid the property of baby plants that look like thistle so I have not seen it again.

https://7song.com/wild-lettuce-preparing-a-concentrated-tincture/

7Songs method of super concentrated wild lettuce tincture. Placing it here for future reference, as I haven't tried it yet.

Every year we use wild lettuce for food. We like a bit of bitterness. It does well for our palates as 1/4 of a salad. Wilted with sauteed onions it can be the only green. We still like it as the center stalk reaches tall.

Guess what I found in the back of my cupboard? A half ass attempt of wild lettuce tincture. Now I remember chopping up a fresh wild lettuce plant that reached 6 foot tall. It had fully plump flower buds, but had not flowered yet. I read somewhere that is when the plant is most potent. The stalk and leaves and buds were chopped up enough to fit in a half gallon jar, mushed down and covered with everclear. (180 proof alcohol) According to my label, it sat for 6 months and was decanted. In 2022.

I tried it out. As expected, it tastes horrible. The plant itself is bitter. BUT! About 30 drops is as effective as 15 drops of commercial teasle root tincture. Which by the way, tastes pretty good. They each give me equal relief from muscle/nerve pain. Neither do anything for headaches. (Cue to feel sorry for me. )

By the way, it does noithing to alter you perception of reality. This was expected from information from several herbalists I trust.

We tried collecting and drying the sap for pain. Neither smoking nor injestion did anything for Hunny's pain. Again, no alterations of reality.

As for alterations of reality, I also always thought that must be an exaggeration. Last year I felt a craving to eat wild (tall blue) lettuce now and then, and in a way something about the cool, fragrant, bitter taste seems rather soothing to feelings of being harrowed and worn thin. Definitely not anything of the "getting high on lettuce" variety that a friend warned me about after mentioning that it was a good vegetable, though! I think that some people expect that as an "opium substitute" it must somehow be like opium.

All this makes me think maybe it is specific for certain kinds of pain and not others. Something interesting about Matthew Wood's Book of Herbal Wisdom is how specific it gets into the mental and physical signs of which herb to use and one of these for lettuce is feeling like a cornered animal--in other words harrowed, fearful, worn thin. Sometimes these don't manifest as actual emotions but just lie as undercurrents to our situation. I think there is so much interconnection between mind and body though. Our emotions often show us what we can't know logically, and listening to our intuition can help us better understand our health from inside as a lived experience, rather than from outside as mediated by the imprecise concepts offered by language and culture.