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boddah wrote:
I wonder how and where people draw their lines.
Idle dreamer
boddah wrote:
the line is so indefinite its nearly not there.
Idle dreamer
H Ludi Tyler wrote:
I'm pretty sure everyone has their own line, but I have to wonder if the hard-core "anti-technology" types drive cars, use grid electricity, or computers.Personally I think technology is part of being human, that is, we wouldn't be human without technology. I do think some technologies are more appropriate than others and certain technologies might just be a bad idea.
H Ludi Tyler wrote:
Personally I like greenhouses and aquaponics, even though I don't live in a good climate for a greenhouse and I'm not yet practicing aquaponics.I think these technologies have a place and can probably be practiced in a least-harm fashion.
well technically it is all chemicals, I guess you mean synthetics?Mekka Pakanohida wrote:
I completely agree, luckily I can do a greenhouse for aquaponics, but I have other projects I am working on. Gotta have priorities when building... ..Zone 0 outwards.
There is no reason to need chemicals with aquaponics, and I look forward to more of it in the future.
boddah wrote:
so silverseeds you appear to be saying what i read. that aquaponics is useless because it is based on land based plants. since land based plants can not be provided for in a closed loop system we would be better off with some water based plants and perhaps using the water changes as a sort of outdoor fertilizer for land based plants?
boddah wrote:
so silverseeds you appear to be saying what i read. that aquaponics is useless because it is based on land based plants. since land based plants can not be provided for in a closed loop system we would be better off with some water based plants and perhaps using the water changes as a sort of outdoor fertilizer for land based plants?
Mekka Pakanohida wrote:
I disagree. Have water flow into a hydroponic bed system that has lettuce, tomatoes, cukes.. omg its endless.. and then have it go back into the tank as a closed loop system. You can even have a 2nd filter system with all the perks a pet store has to offer if you really want.
The problem is the tank size and what is used to generate dissolved organic waste that gets utilized by the plants. More fish you have, the more waste, the more food can be raised, but there is a tipping point that can make it all go south very quickly.
SILVERSEEDS wrote:
Its not a closed loop system though. so what do you disagree on? you need to add outside elements for those plants to live. every few days actually, or the plants wont do well, besides greens which build up nitrates. if you add those things its as productive or more then hydroponics.
unless you know of some system that incorporates those things into it? Ive found no such designs. Id love to see one.
Mekka Pakanohida wrote:
Check out the work being done at Epcot center. If you write them, they will send you a LARGE packet in the mail about it. I found out about it when they were designing the aquariums that house the sharks (I love them so.) and for housing the talapia tanks. Epcot center grows all its own fish (or did) for human consumption on the premises.
boddah wrote:
i would love to ditch cars and computers and send the world back a couple hundred years.
Idle dreamer
H Ludi Tyler wrote:
Personally I'm not in favor of returning to prior ways of life that were very hard and not very healthy. Not saying our present way of life is necessarily easy or good for people. I think something permaculture can help us do is to take the best from the past, present, and work toward a better future.
boddah wrote:
for clarification when i say return to the past or whatever i said. i would like to bring along certain of our current knowledges. my big problem is the industrial revolution which stole our sense of time and stripped the earth. i want a slower paced world. and obviously as always i want people to focus on themselves and their lives rather than others. not sure that was ever accomplished in the history of man but it the theme of the republic by plato. justice as leaving others alone. if you think about it, it fixes most of our problems. bring modern knowledge to that formula and it dont matter if it takes me three days by horse to visit my parents, the government won't be knocking on my door looking for money and taking a portion of my crops for protection. etc etc
He did come back and edit his post.boddah wrote:
btw i always find it funny when someone comes to a forum, posts once, (in this case advertising his video?) and then doesnt come back... am i wrong?
boddah wrote:
obviously as always i want people to focus on themselves and their lives rather than others.
Idle dreamer
H Ludi Tyler wrote:
I dunno, I kind of think we'd be better off if we didn't focus on ourselves so darn much but were willing to put ourselves in other people's shoes and willing to help them learn to care for themselves. Give support= get support. Mutual interdependence. But that's just me! Or rather, my ideal. (In reality I'm kind of a hermit though)
SILVERSEEDS wrote:
in general though, I want to live my life my way, and feel I should be fully free to do so.... presuming Im not hurting others which i dont.... honestly part of me empowering people when i can isnt just because its right, or interdependence, part of it is also the fact if others are cared for then they are less likely to take from me, and the like.
Idle dreamer
SILVERSEEDS wrote:
well i do agree with boddah, but i agree with you also. i take them each in different contexts. I try to help others empower themselves anytime i can. in general though, I want to live my life my way, and feel I should be fully free to do so.... presuming Im not hurting others which i dont.... honestly part of me empowering people when i can isnt just because its right, or interdependence, part of it is also the fact if others are cared for then they are less likely to take from me, and the like.
HD Aquaponics wrote:
Where I live, the soil is a little dirt and a lot of clay. Aquaponics, besides being awesome, is a great solution for our soil issues. We are only sitting on about 2 acres and we live in a community so we have to take into account what will and wont get use nasty letter in the mail. We can't have "farm" animals on the lot so trucking in new soil would be our only quick alternative. Besides aquaponics works. Why would I not want to extend the growing season until mid fall? People who bash the system, I'm sorry, don't know anything about it. Yes, I have to use a pump to get the water from one place to another for the system but who cares?
We use raised beds and do a lot of soil gardening too. This is just a hobby that turned into "oh wow, bell peppers $1 dollar each!?! I'll just grow 'em"
But totally, if people here have a problem with tech or using evil greenhouses I'll just end it here.
HD Aquaponics wrote:
Yes, I have to use a pump to get the water from one place to another for the system but who cares?
But totally, if people here have a problem with tech or using evil greenhouses I'll just end it here.
Emerson White wrote:
Electricity will probably be available in some form for a very long time, even if only intermittently
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Kathleen Sanderson wrote:
If there are good water plants to raise in an aquaponics system, I'd like to hear about it. I'd be looking for food plants for human use as well as anything I could feed back to the fish or supplement the goats, chickens, and rabbits with.
Idle dreamer
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