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Hi all, my first post on the forum! My wife and I just moved to a new house that has a 1/4 acre grass yard, needless to say, the grass has got to go!

One of our first additions will be a 3 tree guild with a focus on attracting BIRDS. We would love feedback

Location: great full sun in summer, good sun in winter. Highest part of yard. Zone 8b.

Trees:
Medler (M. De Evreinoff) ripen October

Paw Paw (Ford Amend) ripens September (will plant taytwo variety elsewhere)

Quince (Pineapple) ripens September /October (a different variety will be planted elsewhere)

Other:
Columbine (Hummingbird favorite)
Honeysuckle (hummongbird/edible)
Comfrey (magic plant)
Artichoke (edible/mulch/beauty)
Current (3 plants/fruit)
Manzanita? (Supposed to have strong mychorrizal activity. I'm on the fe ce about this one)
Daffodil (grass stopper/deer deterant/insects)
Garlic chives(edible/grass stoppers)
Bee balm (insect)
Camas (edible)
Chicory (nutrient accumulator/deep rooted/insect/edible)
Goumi (n fixer, will plant with the trees)
Alpine strawberry (ground cover/fruit)
Clover (ground cover)


Is this way to much diversity for a 3 tree guild?
Am I missing something important?
Paw paw is pollinated by insects and not the usual bees. What can I plant to help out with that?

Attached is our idea for the yard. Tree guild will be at the lower left of the picture
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No reason not to plant it all and let them fight it out. Thje winners will.show themselves.
 
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Looks good!  Two notes, bee balm brings in hummingbirds for us (bonus).  Also, I've seen multitudes more birds in our food forest due to putting up a fence with 6" wire spacing.  I think having a bunch of perches really helped bring the birds in.  No proof but that's the biggest change in our food forest from last year to this year.
 
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Thanks Mike Jay. We have  a few hummingbirds here and we really want to give them a more diverse diet (the only nector in our area is from the feeder).

Do you think think the birds will get year round food? The trees fruit late in the season but I don't know if I have anything for jan through march
 
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I'm thinking it depends on the natural food in your area.  You probably can't plant enough food on your lot for that many birds to overwinter.  But if there are non-migratory birds in your area in the winter, any additional food you grow will only help.  I think winter food is mainly seeds and dried berries but I'm not sure.
 
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In addition to bee balm the hummingbirds at our house enjoy hollyhock and, surprising to me, the marigold my daughter brought home from preschool as a Mother's Day gift.  I also planted morning glory for them but I am not sure if they are going for it or not.

Bumblebees also love the hollyhock.

For my pawpaws, I plan on planting trillium as I believe they are pollinated by similar insects.
 
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Ghislaine de Lessines wrote:
For my pawpaws, I plan on planting trillium as I believe they are pollinated by similar insects.



Good idea. Trillium grows great here but doesn't it flower once every 7 years?
 
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Chris Emerson wrote:
Good idea. Trillium grows great here but doesn't it flower once every 7 years?



They take 7-9 years to first bloom if you start from seed.  They will bloom every year if they are happy where they are.  Most people start from a rhizome to avoid the 7 year wait.  I have it all over my woods so I will carefully transplant some when my pawpaws are big enough to provide more shade.
 
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Ghislaine de Lessines wrote:

Chris Emerson wrote:
Good idea. Trillium grows great here but doesn't it flower once every 7 years?



They take 7-9 years to first bloom if you start from seed.  They will bloom every year if they are happy where they are.  Most people start from a rhizome to avoid the 7 year wait.  I have it all over my woods so I will carefully transplant some when my pawpaws are big enough to provide more shade.



Thanks for clearing that up!
 
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