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Brad VanDyke
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Someone gave me some manure from a barn. As i dug it out i found an aluminum roofing sheet in it, obviously corroded from the animal urine, hole eaten in it, and aluminum salts around it. I'm of the understanding that these are highly dangerous, that aluminum is impl;icated in Alzheimers, etc.  i don't think i want to put this in my garden. How do i dispose of it? Is it a big problem, or can neutralize it somehow?
 
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they have found large concentrations of aluminum in the brains of alzheimers victims after autopsy, but they still don't know if that is a cause of alzheimers, or even if having alzheimers could have caused the deposits to form when the brain began to die..

however, it does help to be careful of things that could cause it..

i quit using any aluminum in cooking when my FIL got alzheimers.
 
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If in doubt, don't use it, or pay to have a test made on it for metals (will cost $ probably).  It's possible the roofing isn't aluminum, more likely galvanized steel (iron alloy), so the corroded portions are probably zinc, not aluminum.  Zinc is often missing in our diets but you don't want a toxic amount of it!

Brenda, I also have a "superstitious fear" of aluminum cookware, and never use it.
 
Paula Edwards
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cut a piece off, go to a builder or a hardware store and ask if it's aluminium. Alu is not magnetic and it is far lighter that iron. If it is  only a small piece and you bend it very easily it could be a flashing, made out of lead.
 
kent smith
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use a magnet to see if it sticks. If so it is galvanized steel. Unless it is very old as in several decades it probably is not lead, personally I have never seen lead flashing. Just a comment on aluminum, alumina the common oxide of aluminum  is the forth most common element in the earth's crust, so exposure common if you do not live in a man made bubble.
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Sergio Santoro
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Yes, Al in the brain and blood stream, together with Cadmium and other heavy metals do imbalance our chemistry and have a part in MS, Alzheimer etc, but Al is the third most present element on the Earth's surface. Chances are that fungi will take care of it in time, but who knows how long.
 
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Aluminum is highly soluble at extreme pH - very acidic and very alkaline. If you bring that contaminated soil to near neutral, very little aluminum will be available to plants.

Aluminum is one of the most common elements in soil. Along with Iron, Silica, and Oxygen, it is a major component of many clays.




Aluminum cookware will leach the metal if an acid food (like tomato sauce) is simmered in it. Boiling pure water in aluminum doesn't really dissolve much at all. Alum is sometimes used in pickles, baking powder, and other food preparations ... this can be a major source of soluble aluminum. It is used in some places to remove turbidity from water at the drinking water treatment plant. Tea is usually grown in acid soils, and is rather high in aluminum, fluorine, and other elements that get mobilized by acidity.
 
Moni Dew
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wow! You guys are really knowledgeable! I've been concerned lately about the aluminum issue because of reports that nearly all rice is heavily contaminated with it. I have severe celiac disease so I tend to eat a lot of rice.. I also drink way too much tea, where aluminum deoderant, etc. Any ideas on a natural way to pull it out of your body safely?
 
Moni Dew
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Moni Dew wrote:wow! You guys are really knowledgeable! I've been concerned lately about the aluminum issue because of reports that nearly all rice is heavily contaminated with it. I have severe celiac disease so I tend to eat a lot of rice.. I also drink way too much tea, where aluminum deoderant, etc. Any ideas on a natural way to pull it out of your body safely?


whoops! I made a mistake here! Rice is reportedly contaminated with arsenic, not aluminum... but either way - how to safely pull contaminants out of the body is the question. sorry - celiac brain is sometimes fuzzy.
 
Faith Boudreau
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I saw that info on arsenic in rice and it appears that white rices from thailand (for example) were low in arsenic. Perhaps sticking to that source for your rice can help to keep arsenic out of your system.
 
Gail Gardner
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Brad VanDyke wrote:Someone gave me some manure from a barn. As i dug it out i found an aluminum roofing sheet in it, obviously corroded from the animal urine, hole eaten in it, and aluminum salts around it.


Barn roofing is typically steel, not aluminum (quote from http://www.metalroofing.systems/reimagining-tin-roofing-guide-for-homeowners/):

One of the most popular and economical metals is galvanized (G-90) steel, made of alloyed steel with a protective coating of zinc to prevent corrosion.


Because aluminum is more expensive, what you found in a barn is most likely steel. The shape of the corrugation in the metal can help confirm that. Barns are typically roofed in the cheaper, lighter metal that is curved rather than "R" or "U" shaped channel.
 
Gail Gardner
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Moni Dew wrote:wow!  You guys are really knowledgeable!  I've been concerned lately about the aluminum issue  because of reports that nearly all rice is heavily contaminated with  it.  I have severe celiac disease so I tend to eat a lot of rice..  I also drink way too much tea, where aluminum deoderant, etc.  Any ideas on a natural way to pull it out of your body safely?


There are many ways to draw toxins out of your body:

Drink herbal tea. I favor organic Traditional Medicinals brands (available from vitacost.com and swansonvitamins.com) and also drink organic Swanson Vitamins brands.

Take clay baths. You can buy commercial mixes specifically for this purpose or buy 50# bags of bentonite clay.

Products for removing toxins include:

Algin
Liver Cleanse Formula
Milk Thistle Combination


I prefer the Natures Sunshine brand of the above 3 products even though I'm not a fan of MLMs because it was very, very obvious to me that their Female Complex with Dong Quai immediately reduced fibroids for me. Just one bottle would do it. Many women have hysterectomies for symptoms less serious than mine when that may be all they needed. I have bought all of these on eBay from different sellers.

Everyone should keep activated charcoal capsules and powder on hand. You can use either one for food poisoning or other stomach symptoms, but the capsules are easier to take. You have to more motivated to drink black liquid. Make a paste of charcoal powder the way you would with baking soda to draw out toxins like spider or snake bites and stop the itch of insect bites.

Use tea tree oil to stop infections. I've used both charcoal powder and tea tree oil to stop infected spider bites and on brown recluse bites. (Brown recluse bite symptoms can recur and should then be retreated.)

Drinking Zeolite especially when fibromyalgia pain starts works for me. I prefer Pure Zeolite 400 (multiple sellers on ebay; example (so you can find the others) see http://www.ebay.com/itm/Pure-Zeolite-400-zeo-health-/222428082480?) Zeolite powders are considered better than the liquids.

Seaweed is often used for heavy metal detoxification. Types I've used are:

Algin (mentioned above)
Kyoto Clorella (I use the ones in the orange boxes https://www.swansonvitamins.com/swanson-health-products?kw=clorella)

 
William Bronson
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Concerning the deodorant, I have moved to using nothing but coconut oil.
It's antibacterial, feels great and it's cheap. I also brush my teeth with a mixture of baking soda and coconut oil.
I've used as my  soap as well, but if you do this, you should treat your pipes with boiling water occasionally. The temperature that coconut oil solidifies at make it ideal for clogging pipes.
 
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