I’m starting this thread because I’d love to hear from permies in the Balkans. The reason I’ve chosen this particular region is because I live in Serbia and it’s too expensive for me to travel to faraway countries and participate in permacultural projects there. BUT: I can reach the Balkan countries relatively cheaply by bus or train, so I can volunteer in your place (if you’re already a part of a community or have a household that’s striving towards sustainability/self-sufficiency), or just meet up with you so that we get to know each other better (if you’re trying to start a community and are looking for potential members... or if you’re just thinking about an alternative lifestyle and would love to have someone to discuss it with ).
I’m female, 32, with some WWOOF experience. Feel free to send me a personal message if you want to talk.
All the best, and hope to hear from some of you soon
Hi Natasa, its good to see people from all around the world here!
Also it is even better to see someone from my region, alas I hardly know people who are into permaculture....
Though its not like I have searched a lot too, I have my own plans about all that, but I am actually your age and still gathering the financial means for that.
You look like a brave passionate person which is great!
posted 4 months ago
And Borislav - if you ever want to talk about permaculture, your plans for the future or just random stuff, drop me a line. It's inspiring to get in touch with permaculture enthusiasts - who, as you've noticed, aren't very numerous in our area.
I would love to see more people from all over europe here! If you want, you can come and visit in spring.
posted 4 months ago
Sebastian, thanks for your offer! Right now I'm focusing on the Balkans because travelling to other countries would be much more expensive, but if you want, we can talk about your household/farm/community/whatever it is... Who knows? Maybe you convince me that Abkhazia is just the place that I'm looking for
If you can find a way around the currently closed parts in the Ukraine … it should be fairly affordable. You don't even need a Russian visa (I am jealous)! Maybe there are inexpensive flights from Serbia to Sotchi/Adler?
So far I have not much here … just found a village with people I like and a place I like. Next year a house will need to be build, and the garden needs to be redone from scratch.
For me Abkhazia is the perfect place. It is located between europe, asia and arabic countries. It also has people from those countries. It has the east-european "crazyness", with the relaxedness of the arabic world. A good portion of structures from soviet union still remain (public transport for example).
The nature is amazing, at least where it was not destroyed. Amazing water. Clay for millennia. The climate varies from dry and hot near Georgia, over subtropical warm in Sukhumi, to temperate, yet warm towards Russia. Towards the mountains, the climate is more similar to northern Europe. (The forests here are very similar to those from north Germany – I love those forests!). In the mountains you have alpine climate – lots of snow, and mild summers.
My plan here is to set up infrastructure for more permaculture interested people to come: Hydro-electic power, good internet connection and a school. There is plenty of land to grow things, there is a lot of freedom here.
Then people with knowledge in woodworking, metalworking are needed. I only know the basics.
posted 4 months ago
You seem to have a great plan for the future - and I wish you all the best with it! It's really brave to move to a foreign country and start building up everything pretty much from scrath. I'm glad you found the place and people you like - those two things are crucial. Was it hard obtaining all the necessary documents in order to buy land, get a visa/residence permit/whatever?
Getting a visa is the easiest part. A residence permit isn't a problem either. Buying land is not possible unless you have an Abkhazian passport. So the property will be owned by a local friend until it is possible to get a passport.