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Hello Everyone,
I am starting this thread to discuss the Textiles - Straw BB - Weaving List item Weave a Camera Strap - 2.5 points.
Proposed Page Title: Weave a Camera Strap (Weaving List) - textile.straw.weave-strap PEP BB.

I am thinking of creating the page for this BB and want to hear your input on the "minimum requirements" and the photos required to have the BB certified.

Notes: I looked at several commercial camera/guitar straps for sale and they were all 2-in wide and ranged from 25-in to 70-in long.  Some were adjustable, some were not.  The average seemed to be 30-36-in for a non-adjustable strap.

I would like to propose de-specialization.  I understand the value of turning a piece of cloth (the woven strap) into a useful object and I would like to add that the strap can be for a camera or a musical instrument (or other appropriate use like a duffle bag) as long as the hardware is appropriate and attached.
My rationale: In the last decade camera sales have plummeted as phones entered the market and have pretty much taken over the "amateur" camera niche.  I know only 1 person who still has a camera (like R describes below) that is not a professional photographer.  
It looks like Josiah uses his phone for the greenhouse zoom calls.
When I was stationed in Italy (2003), I bought a digital camera for my vacation photos and I found it last week in a back corner of my desk drawer and just left it there as I use my phone exclusively.

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This is a badge bit (BB) that is part of the PEP curriculum.  Completing this BB is part of getting the straw badge in textiles.

Demonstrate or learn how to make a camera strap on a loom (i.e. inkle loom, rigid heddle, backstrap, tablet weaving).  The goal of this BB is to produce a strap that is exceptionally strong and non-stretchy with appropriate hardware attached.
Here are some hardware ideas: camera strap hardware, guitar hardware, or wide strap hardware.

Optional: add an adjustible slide to the strap.



To complete this BB, the minimum requirements are:
 - weave a strap that is a minimum of 2 inches wide by 60 inches long (recommended length while it is on the loom and under tension).
 - use materials that are clearly sturdy enough for use on an active homestead
 - hem and add hardware so you can attach it to your camera, guitar, or duffle bag

To document your completion of the BB, provide proof of the following as pictures or a video (less than two minutes):
 - the loom and materials you're starting with
 - the weaving in process
 - the finished strap that is at least 54" - off the loom and hemmed with hardware attached preferably with a ruler or tape measure visible
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the materials - cotton thread for weaving
the materials - cotton thread for weaving
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Inkle Loom warped and ready to start weaving
Inkle Loom warped and ready to start weaving
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several inches of weaving completed
several inches of weaving completed
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finished weaving - still needs hem and hardware for bb certification
finished weaving
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Opalyn.  Are the attached images your submission for the badge?  If so, can you put them in a separate post?  
 
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r ranson wrote:Opalyn.  Are the attached images your submission for the badge?  If so, can you put them in a separate post?  



Hi, Thanks for checking.  I started this post for conversation not as the BB page but I can see the confusion.  The photos are of my work but were offered as an example.  When I make the BB page, I will offer them in a "reply" and request certification.  I am curious if there are other BB with optional extra points as I described.
 
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They are lovely photos.

I don't know about the optional extras.  I'm sending the question up the food chain.  We usually do textiles on a weekend meeting, so I'm hoping we'll know more by next week.  

as I understand it, the goals why we choose this project are:

Since it's a camera strap and a good camera and lens can easily cost a few thousand dollars and weighs between 2 to 20 pounds, I suspect the criteria is that this isn't going to drop the camera.  Or that it is correct for the specific type of camera?  I don't know if hand straps fit this bb as well.  The skillset is the same, but the woven band is shorter.

We want to see, is the choice in materials and the choice in the method is appropriate to create an exceptionally strong, non-stretchy strap.  (hint: inkle, backstrap, and tablet weaving - although there are other options)  Also, a good choice of fastener so that it can be added or removed from the camera. And showing how the strap attaches to the fastener / is finished.  This is a part that a lot of students get stuck on and give up band weaving.


(and I'm super-tired today so my language skills aren't working well.  Hoping something coherent came from my attempt to mush words together.)

 
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r ranson wrote:  I don't know if hand straps fit this bb as well.


Thank you for the information.  I'm guessing that a hand strap is a camera strap that is only long enough to wrap around the hand and maybe the 25" long straps that I found for sale when I was looking at commercially available camera straps.  A strap that would fit around a person's neck needs to be between 48" and 54" or longer for an adjustable strap.  

My suggestion for the weaving (with hem) to be worth 2.5 points and the addition of hardware an additional point comes from my experience with textiles and my impression that permies/PEP didn't want this project to complete the weaving portion of the textile straw badge.

I would be happy to join the textile meeting so I can hear from you all and (hopefully) add to the conversation.
 
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I made a few edits to the main/first post per R. Ranson's comments.  Thanks for the feedback.
 
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PEP is about more than showing we have the skills, but also showing that we can apply them to daily life.

Anyone can weave a band.  It's easy.

The hard part is making the band the right size to fit the hardware.  Attaching it to the hardware in a suitable manner.  If I'm evaluating the BB application, these are the skills I would want to see.  The actual band weaving is only about half of it.  A good camera strap starts with the hardware and plans the rest of the project around that.  

 
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r ranson wrote:PEP is about more than showing we have the skills, but also showing that we can apply them to daily life.

Anyone can weave a band.  It's easy.

The hard part is making the band the right size to fit the hardware.  Attaching it to the hardware in a suitable manner.  If I'm evaluating the BB application, these are the skills I would want to see.  The actual band weaving is only about half of it.  A good camera strap starts with the hardware and plans the rest of the project around that.  



So a copy of the original strap would be acceptable, changing the nylon and fake leather to suitable alternatives? Assuming you have the original strap of course. (hypothetical question here)
 
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More edits made.  Hope this makes it to the textile meeting this week.  Thanks for reviewing this project.
 
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