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paul wheaton wrote:It's horrible and wonderful.
And you are choosing to come suffer with us.
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Community Building 2.0: ask me about drL, the rotational-mob-grazing format for human interactions.
Joshua Myrvaagnes wrote:Can you take some temperature readings from the wofati even if it's not occupied?
Community Building 2.0: ask me about drL, the rotational-mob-grazing format for human interactions.
paul wheaton wrote:
Joshua Myrvaagnes wrote:Can you take some temperature readings from the wofati even if it's not occupied?
Yes!
Will we? Very doubtful.
Community Building 2.0: ask me about drL, the rotational-mob-grazing format for human interactions.
Community Building 2.0: ask me about drL, the rotational-mob-grazing format for human interactions.
Community Building 2.0: ask me about drL, the rotational-mob-grazing format for human interactions.
Community Building 2.0: ask me about drL, the rotational-mob-grazing format for human interactions.
Joshua Myrvaagnes wrote:I'm so glad you shared about your story, Paul, it makes it much clearer where you're coming from and why you're doing things in the particular way. A lot of it was already clear, but this filled in some important pieces.
I also didn't get that you'd been so intimately involved in the communities movement, maybe I just missed that piece about helping incubate communities but that should definintely be in the thorns book as helping clarify the context for that.
I still think there are innovations in cooperation that are worth learning from outside the communities movement--drL, movement communication. Things that go beyond sociocracy and consensus decisionmaking.
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I so strongly identify with the click. I also feel there have been so many different clicks in my life which I thought I had to do, and of course I can't do non-sustainable anything sustainably but I have to do these other things once I've gotten my house in order. If I can get most of my food from people nearby whose methods feel right to me, heat with a reasonable amount of wood, basically be in the black ecologically, then I have always thought I would put my time into art-making and teaching. It's not disconnected from creating a better world, but it's more indirect.
But I also think of the post-toxin, post-automobile, post-degenerative-disease, post-petroleum world as inevitable, it's so clear to me that I sometimes don't feel the same pressure that it has to be me who gets us there. If it takes a few generations to get there, that's OK. It's just the deception that I find demoralizing (fake progress dressed up as progress). But an honest "this is a transitional measure" propane tank with a real plan for what's going to replace it feels tolerable to me.
Would I like to be neck-deep in permaculture? absolutely. Can I feel OK about just making real net progress toward that (vs. fake progress)? usually. Am I making real progress? mostly. This year was a mixed bag, going from electric baseboard heating to oil forced air...out of the frying pan and into the fire. But I managed to pass the ecoposer test.
I'm too bonkers about permaculture for most people around me and not quite enough to be able to tolerate and figure out the worky-job thingy and make the money to make a permaculture paradise happen through sheer force of will.
To be continued
Community Building 2.0: ask me about drL, the rotational-mob-grazing format for human interactions.
You should never forget that every creature has its purpose in the cycle of nature and can also be very important to humans. Sepp Holzer's Permaculture
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paul's patreon stuff got his videos and podcasts running again!
https://permies.com/t/60329/paul-patreon-stuff-videos-podcasts
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