Emails not getting to microsoft accounts?

this includes msn, outlook, hotmail ...

i think that soon, all accounts with these emails will be locked out of permies.

I would say, though, that I get every email from permies@permies.com: the dailyish, weeklyish, monthlyish, "threads you might have missed," "so-and-so replied to your post," etc. Hotmail/microsoft/outlook does not have any issues with permies@permies.com.

The only issue is with emails from, say, "person-name@richsoil.com" or "person-name@permies.com." I don't know why the latter is such a problem, but I don't know if it's a big enough issue to rid permies of all microsoft/outlook email addresses.

I made a protonmail account, but, despite my best efforts, I never remember to check it. All my other emails go to my microsoft email address and my work email, so those are what I manage to check.

There might be 20 other emails sent to you each month from other people that you never see.

Nicole Alderman wrote:I would say, though, that I get every email from permies@permies.com: the dailyish, weeklyish, monthlyish, "threads you might have missed," "so-and-so replied to your post," etc. Hotmail/microsoft/outlook does not have any issues with permies@permies.com.

The only issue is with emails from, say, "person-name@richsoil.com" or "person-name@permies.com." I don't know why the latter is such a problem, but I don't know if it's a big enough issue to rid permies of all microsoft/outlook email addresses.

I made a protonmail account, but, despite my best efforts, I never remember to check it. All my other emails go to my microsoft email address and my work email, so those are what I manage to check.

Proton free has a feature to send an email to your main email once a day with how many new emails arrived.

Speaking with my sysadmin hat on, I have a special place in my private hell reserved for Microsoft email admins. They are perhaps the biggest hypocrites on the net these days, with their insanely strict and obtuse "we think you're a spammer but won't tell you why, and make you jump through flaming hoops to get your domain unblocked" while at the same time, their netblocks have been at the top of the charts for spam origination for months now. It's cost me dozens of hours and truckloads of good will in recent months, and made my already-poor opinion of that company slip into subterranean territory.

I look after several mail servers, including my own, with lots of paying clients, and one that provides service for many thousands of users, mostly in Europe, who belong to community LETS groups. Since about the beginning of the year, we've seen an exponential increase in the amount of spam emanating from throwaway live.com and hotmail.com accounts, which has ended up with Spamcop blacklisting lots of MS netblocks. This in turn, has meant that my server (which uses Spamcop's excellent service) has in turn bounced lots of messages from legitimate users who have the misfortune of being on a paid Office365 account belonging to (for example) our local councils, the nearby university, several government ministries, and some nonprofit community orgs. So this meant I had people emailing and calling me, asking what's up, and getting a little bit agitated. I had to ask them to go through their network support channels, and get them to log tickets with MS, and finally I relented and whitelisted a bunch of domains out of frustration.

Meanwhile, over in France, our busy (25-100K messages a day) little mail server has seen lots of additional and unnecessary deferral and bounce activity because MS keeps flagging broadcast emails from the LETS sites as spam...even though everything sent on our systems is very much opt-in and has all the appropriate disclaimer and unsub text in every message. It has put a needless burden on our support team (mostly volunteers) to try to get whitelisted, and the end result has been lots of notifications missed by users.

So yeah, friends don't let friends use Microsoft product and services. This is why.