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!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! what if the cost of food goes up 10x?

 
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Jerry Brown wrote:"Bread prices will be getting high"...
the machine bakes only one loaf at a time -- takes ~4 hours. About 10 minutes of my time to load the ingredients in the machine.


I admit that my homemade machine bread tends to have extra ingredients. To make it easier, I put all the shelf stable ingredients, pre-measured, in a set of jars in a drawer used for just that purpose. I make up 9 to 12 mixes at a time. Then I just pour the dry ingredients into the bowl, add the yeast and the wet ingredients, and push the button.

I do a simpler system with sourdough starter I've had for years and a Dutch oven in our regular oven. I've been told that the bread is more digestible because it sits to rise for 8 to 12 hours before baking. In the winter, the heat from the oven warms up the area on cold mornings. If we get hot weather, the bread machine will be used, and I've been known to move it outside if the weather's exceptionally hot.
 
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It’s nice to have the option of moving heat sources outside during hot weather, isn’t it?

I wanted a bread machine, myself 30 or 35 years ago. I found one in a thrift shop as well. It worked well and it made good bread but after a while, the bread seemed extremely boring. Identical texture, identical flavor. After six months, the bread machine went back to the thrift shop. My daughter was about eight at the time. I taught her how to make bread and she became very good at it.
 
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I know the matriarch of a local farming family. Generations of experience farming in our area, and one of a minority of traditional farms (they have cows, sheep, grow some crops for feeding livestock including a flock of hens). I've heard her tell stories of her childhood of bringing the things like butter (made by her mother) to town on market day. Their motto for difficult times is to keep farming through.
I think that's probably the best idea for those of us already farming or growing. Find ways to keep producing food. Some farmers are talking about skipping whole crops this year due to input prices. We don't have that problem because we know how to care for our soil without such inputs.

Personally one of the things that I am doing is starting more tomato and cucumber plants than I will need. The extras are going to be gifted to friends who don't grow but could take care of a plant or two. I know it doesn't seem like much but it means there'll be more food growing than otherwise. I'm making things as easy for them as I can. These crops aren't much for calories but they're food that people eat and like. And I am putting as much effort into my allotment as I can. I don't have sunchokes but I do grow potatoes easily enough. I do have walking onions. I grow a little kale and not more because my partner hates kale and avoids eating it. I grow a bunch of different things, including about 8 different kinds of beans and peas. I have focused on beans and peas that can be dried. Which reminds me, I need to start the carlin peas off soon.
 
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What if the price of food goes up 10x?
….grow enough food to feed 20 people.  Most of it can be harvested through the winter.
….  I feel like I have been trying to persuade people to grow their own food for decades…
…. I do feel the best stuff is my most recent "automatic backyard food pump."


All that!!  
Seems so many freakin’out about (like, ..everything right now..)
Maybe most disturbing, is so many stuck spinning on “the horribles”, but relative few share viable solutions to whatever hyped horribles they’re spun-up about.  Then there’s so much AI slop mixing facts & fictions.
Have that many forgotten how to be proactive??

We solve problems by identifying problems, then, discuss viable solutions, & include what could work for all levels of folks.
SIMPLIFY! Avoid getting hooked into commercialised opinions of what you need or should do!  
We’ve all been extremely Social & Consumer Engineered by industries, to “buy what They’re selling”; most of that is NOT what anyone really needs.

Some can grow food/medicine yards, some balcony containers, or closet container gardens.  
Some can’t garden…but maybe they could follow plans like Optimum Health Institute offers (a sprouting regimen) that actually heals/restores even some very ill bodies—they recently posted to website (after several decades of only on-person), they will be offering an online course, which will be able to help far more folks than can go in-person.  
With that plan, one can literally put 6 months of seeds & sprouting equipment to feed a person, into a large briefcase!  
Just about anyone can do sprouting, as long as they have fresh water; & pantrying seeds can mean healthy survival for a few years at least. If there’s garden space to grow those plants to produce more seeds, it can be indefinitely survival.

It’s great to make “food forests” in our yards, burgeoning verdant w/food/medicine plants that also restore natural plantscapes….& for the benefit of overbearing HOAs, make them just look like interesting landscaping.  
Even better, is having plants that offer food year around—maybe some ways society has forgotten (like picking fruit tree leaves, slightly fermenting them, & using those for tea daily), & knowing what & how to find, pick & eat simple edible weeds…year around.
I’ve harvested small amounts of fresh dandelion leaves, & other weeds, from under a couple inches of snow, w/temps at about 26F., enuf to make salads for 2 for a couple days, easy.
Learn to appreciate wider flavors, including “bitter”.n
Maybe kibitz to form a template of how best to get HOAs to change garden rules to allow for natural & food landscaping, windgens, solar panels.
Learn & practice Intermittent Fasting; it’s good for health, & reduces amount of food one eats, lowering the need for food supplies during worst of times, while maintaining & maybe improving health.

Traumas, & privations happen…but it’s not the thing that happens, it’s what we choose to do because of it, that matters most.
Think: what can be done for the highest good?
Focus on viable choices, & Joy & Gratitude for that—even when things seem to look like not the best choices.
There can be joy in Surviving in-spite of adversity; Grace under pressure; perspicacity in creative problem solving. Focus on those, to help keep a cool head under pressure. .
Find purpose that drives you to keep on keepin’ on, & share ideas, & produce!
 
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Sarah Joubert wrote: I'm willing to change my diet to build a better world, but I can't see a nutritional reason to force someone to eat sunchokes every day!



HAH! Sarah! Thats hilarious! And I totally agree with you. They aren't bad on a salad. I could eat a little one every day on the side somehow. But they aren't a delicious way to fill a plate.
 
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