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John F Dean

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I have a somewhat swampy area that messes with a path for vehicles that I seldom use. A neighbor suggested I use some old tires to fill in the roadway and fill the with gravel. His view was the tires would prevent the gravel from washing away. My problem is I question the use of old tires is a boggy area where there are turtles, etc living. Any ideas on how much old tires might impact things.

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I would suggest having a load of wood chips brought in. fill that boggy swappy area with them

They can be replaced when needed and with break down adding nutrients to your soil.

I feel what your neighbor has suggest is a lot more work and maybe other problems.

My neighbor repaired an area like that by burying big rocks. It worked though it was a lot more work than a load of wood chips. Unfortunately we cannot get wood chips here unless we make them ourselves.

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Hi Anne,

Yes, wood chips were on my list of alternatives.

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Does the boggy area have any washout issues?

My local crusher run tends to 'lock up' pretty well on its own without the need for something like geotextile or tires. This, however, is assuming you don't have water moving to washout the spot normally. The rock drains naturally and gives a bit of structure. The more angular pieces, the better.

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Hi Timothy,

It is more of a matter of a low area collecting water. I don’t use the route that often ..maybe 4 times a year. In wet weather it is a good place to get stuck. It is a situation where I would like to address the issue and mess with the ecology as little as possible. I am thinking of a cord road. There is maybe 14 feet that needs to be addressed.

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Apparently some tires leach a chemical that is non-fish compatible. Not sure about turtles, but personally, I wouldn't risk it.

By "cord road" are you thinking round chunks of dead tree side by side? I like that idea considering the amount of time you use it for. The sort of questions I would have are:
1/ would you need to rest the ends on a cross member so the logs don't get pushed into the muck?
2/ or put down a base of tree branches that link the logs (just by gravity)?

Interesting that this came up, as a friend of mine has a soggy, muddy area near the door of her Bantum run and I was just thinking today that if she removed a layer of the mud and replaced it with some layers of 2x4 in opposing directions, that it might improve the situation a lot.

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Yes, I am thinking 8 ft logs. I question if there will be much problem with the logs being pushed in….i don’t use the route that often. And, of course, I could always put some wood chips on top. Realistically, while I have no intention of moving ….at 75 years I doubt if I will be actively working the place for more than 10 more years.

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Can you shift the roadway?
I would lay a thinner layer of 11/2 inch rock ro just create traction.
It will keep sinking in the ruts until it finds something solid, but may work well as 2 strips.

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I am a big fan of ditches.

Our road was being washed out due to it becoming a river when it rains.

Dear hubby took the tractor and used the box blade to make an area parallel to the road to make that area lower than the road. Like a wide shallow ditch.

So far our road no long becomes a river.

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