This is a bean, but which one?

Hi,

I love growing and eating beans.
This year, I grew maybe 50 different cultivars in something like 13 species.
I carefully labelled everything while sowing, and transplanting.
Unfortunately, while plants grew, they met each other, and now it's kind of a big mess.
I will have to do things in a different way next year.
And I was given beans without a name from Aster Lane Edibles, so that I don't know each and every specie/cultivar I grow.

I'm now getting some crop and... of course I sometimes wonder what I have.

Yesterday, I found a dead dwarf bean plant with beans on it that didn't look like its neighbours.
So... What do you think they are (because I don't know):

Phaseolus coccineus

Phaseolus lunatus

Canavalia

Psophocarpus

Mucuna

Vicia

Phaseolus vulgaris

Dolichos

Vigna angularis

Vigna unguiculata

Vigna unguiculata sesquipedalis

To me, that can't be any canavalia or psophocarpus because it's too small. I don't think it's Phaseolus coccineus either, because the shape doesn't seem the right one (and the size neither), not Vicia because of the leaves (didn't take any pic because they were rotten, but looked like bean leaves).
Could that be a cow pea? Maybe not, because the "eye" is white and not black...

Thanks.

no idea but they look nice and I would like to grow some .

Thanks David.
If I find some more on my allotments, they will find their way to your land.

My first thought is that they were Field Peas, not cowpeas but pisum sativum.  But they didn't look right.

They are Pink Beans:  Popular in Caribbean countries, pink beans, or habichuelas rosadas, are similar in size to pinto and Great Northern beans and have a rich, meaty flavor.


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They look like Phaseolus vulgaris to me. Especially if that mouse pad is calibrated in cm.

Thanks Anne, I didn't know of pink beans.
So, we can't call that a cultivar of Phaseolus vulgaris, but is it a sub-specie?
What I can see there is helping a little.

Thanks Joseph, it's a graph paper (mm/cm).

Joseph knows more about beans than I do so it probably is a Phaseolus vulgaris.  I wonder about that but didn't want to get out my seeds to look at them.  I don't know much about pink beans.

I planted pinto beans this year that looked nothing like the parents. The parent Pinto beans are brown with white spots.  The children were smaller white with brown spots.

Common beans, (phaseolus vulgaris), and runner beans (Phaseolus coccineus) are the only pulses I've grown that have a glossy seed coat. The seeds in the original post are not at all like runner beans seeds. The seed size is consistent with common beans. The hilum looks consistent with a common bean. A bush plant is consistent with some cultivars of common bean. Therefore I'd ID them as common beans.

I grow hundreds of cultivars of common beans ... I stopped trying to keep track of names a long time ago. These days I just describe the characteristics of the seed. Pink beans, or little pink beans, or great pink beans, or yellow beans, or little black beans, etc, etc, etc... I use a handful of colors, and a dozen or so patterns/shapes: Appaloosa, speckled, calypso, kidney, round, cattle, crowder, Anasazi, tiger eye, goat's eye, etc.

Common beans:

I see, Joseph. Thanks a bunch for the info.
I try to keep track of what I'm growing, and as much as I like seeds as a gift, I like to be able to name them afterwards, or at least to know the binomial name.
Illusory quest, but I can't help it for the time being.
Will store it under the hand-wrought

Phaseolus vulgaris 'durango/pink'

neologism.

Thanks a lot for your help.

I've always been more of a lumper than a splitter. I'm watching closely for interspecies bean hybrids between Phaseolus vulgaris and Phaseolus coccineus. And the past couple of years I've been growing hybrids between Cucurbita moschata and Cucurbita argyrosperma. Next growing season, I'm expecting to add an interspecies hybrid between Cucurbita maxima and  Cucurbita moschata.

Thanks, Joseph.
This is the "crop" of the day.
I guess they all are Phaseolus vulgaris. All plants were dwarf.

I particularly like the skewbald themed one.

The last one looks funny.

I guess the very last one is an immature one, not a different cultivar...

André:

Great bean photos! They look like Phaseolus vulgaris to me as well. Common beans sometimes have what I think of as a "reversal" where the seed coloration is inverted from the normal pattern. So instead of having brown speckles on a beige background (for example with pinto beans), the pattern will be beige speckles on a brown background. I'm wondering if your dark speckled beans and the white bean with red speckles are the same variety and some of the seeds are showing the "color reversal"?

Yesterday I harvested  the earliest of Phaseolus acutifolius.

Thanks.
I got your point, but can't give a ruling on these beans.

Phaseolus acutifolius is one of the maaaaaany "bean" species/cultivars/whatever I want to try next year.
I've just spotted one cultivar at rare seed that I'd like to buy: "Blue Speckled".
If you ever know of a seller with more choice, please let me know.

Received today "San Pablo balleza", yellow tepari beans, red and brown bambara groundnut.

Joseph Lofthouse wrote:André:

Common beans sometimes have what I think of as a "reversal" where the seed coloration is inverted from the normal pattern. So instead of having brown speckles on a beige background (for example with pinto beans), the pattern will be beige speckles on a brown background.

Yesterday I harvested  the earliest of Phaseolus acutifolius.

I noticed this on some of mine. Do you think it is a weird quirk or possibly something that could be bred to be consistant?

Shawn Harper wrote:I noticed this on some of mine. Do you think it is a weird quirk or possibly something that could be bred to be consistant?

The trait doesn't seem to be heritable... By that I mean that if I plant "reversed color" beans that they produce regular colored offspring.

Regarding mixing beans in garden beds, I don't care as long as I can remember what to do with them.
The problem is see is that some of them are better for some recipes, and some others with other recipes (like pink beans vs flageolets).

Hi,
    Just a guess but they look like mung beans.

New (to me) cultivars spotted. The pinkish ones were really a beautiful pink color before freezing.
By the way, I may have made a mistake.
I usually freeze my dry beans before storage to avoid damage by Bruchus.
I think that this time I may have frozen them too early.
My bad...

The big round red one could be Phaseolus vulgaris 'true red cranberry dry bean'.
I don't know in which category this one can be classified, but as long as I don't have enough of this to eat, I don't really care.

The other one could come from Carol Deppe, but I still have to find its name:


And the "skewbald" one is maybe a Calypso:

Crop of the day.
Maybe Calypso/Ying yan/Taiji bean.

And another unknown one.

Sabre de Vienne, Orteils de Prêcheur, Espagne Rouge.