• Post Reply Bookmark Topic Watch Topic
  • New Topic
permaculture forums growies critters building homesteading energy monies kitchen purity ungarbage community wilderness fiber arts art permaculture artisans regional education skip experiences global resources cider press projects digital market permies.com pie forums private forums all forums
this forum made possible by our volunteer staff, including ...
master stewards:
  • Nancy Reading
  • Carla Burke
  • r ranson
  • John F Dean
  • paul wheaton
  • Pearl Sutton
stewards:
  • Jay Angler
  • Liv Smith
  • Leigh Tate
master gardeners:
  • Christopher Weeks
  • Timothy Norton
gardeners:
  • thomas rubino
  • Jeremy VanGelder
  • Maieshe Ljin
  • Likes 8
  • Mark post as helpful
  • send pies
    Number of slices to send:
    Optional 'thank-you' note:
  • Quote
  • Report post to moderator
This is a badge bit (BB) that is part of the PEP curriculum.  Completing this BB is part of getting the sand badge in round wood working.

This BB will be building a simple saw buck.


(source)
(note that this image shows one acceptable alternative design)


A saw buck can be a very useful tool, and is similar to a saw horse, but has added top supports to hold wood even more steady while sawing or shaping the wood.

The dry pieces of wood should be the legs and the smaller top supports, fitting in to the main piece of green wood (freshly cut piece of wood). The idea is that the green wood will shrink and further tighten itself to the pieces of dried wood.

Holes are made in the green wood, and the dry leg and top support pieces are inserted into it.

The main piece of green wood is a bigger log cut in half with the flat top facing up, with the legs inserted into the bottom and the smaller supports inserted into the flat top.

This video shows a good design and step by step process of building it. It starts with the legs already inserted, but you can see that process in the video for the saw horse BB.



Be safe when using tools, work at your own risk, and enjoy building!

To get certified for this BB, post three pics.  

 - Your chunks of wood that you are starting with
 - Progress about half way through, with the hand tools you have decided to use for this
 - Final product

Clarifications:
 - "Hand tools" means non-powered tools.  No battery/electrically powered drills
 - Log sections can be harvested with a chainsaw
COMMENTS:
 
author and steward
Posts: 52415
Location: missoula, montana (zone 4)
hugelkultur trees chicken wofati bee woodworking
  • Likes 4
  • Mark post as helpful
  • send pies
    Number of slices to send:
    Optional 'thank-you' note:
  • Quote
  • Report post to moderator
Wow.  I just went through google image search and youtube and the best sawbucks are at a site called permies.com  :)

When bearpaw was here last year, he had something that was a bit of a saw buck - but it would take three of them to make what I think of as a sawbuck.  I cannot seem to find a picture of it now.  

I made a sawbuck about 15 years ago.  We've been using it and I cannot find pics of it, and I don't know where it is right now, but it looks a bit like this:



Clearly, this is a sawbuck made with dimensional lumber, which is NOT what this BB is about.   But here are some important characteristics of a sawbuck:  

  - there are two "log holders" at one end and one "log holder" at the other end.  The idea is that if you have a log that is 8 feet long, it will hold it.   And if you have a log that is 30 inches long, it will hold that too.  

  - it needs to hold the log steady - no jiggle.  This includes while working over that log with some sort of saw


Here is an interesting design.  If the legs are dry and the big log is green, this could work for this BB




This is the first I have seen of this design and i like it a lot:



I think that the log supports should make an "X" instead of a "U" but maybe that is more a matter of taste.   And maybe you would end up with two different sawbucks - one with a "U" and one with an "X".   If that were the case, I suspect that the one with the "X" would get used about six times more often.



 
pollinator
Posts: 123
Location: Tennessippi
42
purity forest garden gear foraging trees books cooking food preservation medical herbs woodworking ungarbage
  • Likes 6
  • Mark post as helpful
  • send pies
    Number of slices to send:
    Optional 'thank-you' note:
  • Quote
  • Report post to moderator
Approved submission
I thought I'd try 4 bits on the top side. I have not yet made up my mind as to whether it was a good decision or not. time will tell.
DSCN1675.JPG
[Thumbnail for DSCN1675.JPG]
DSCN1677.JPG
[Thumbnail for DSCN1677.JPG]
DSCN1679.JPG
[Thumbnail for DSCN1679.JPG]
DSCN1680.JPG
[Thumbnail for DSCN1680.JPG]
DSCN1682.JPG
[Thumbnail for DSCN1682.JPG]
Staff note (Mike Haasl) :

I certify this BB completed!

 
gardener
Posts: 3132
2095
  • Likes 4
  • Mark post as helpful
  • send pies
    Number of slices to send:
    Optional 'thank-you' note:
  • Quote
  • Report post to moderator
Approved submission
Paul wanted one of these done, so here it is! Pretty neat concept.


Cleared some trees the other day and brought a forked cherry and hackberry home for this project. Grabbed a couple of small poles that were lying around not in use.





Boring a hole with the adjustable drill bit. I'm not gonna lie; it wasn't easy. If that cherry had been dry, I'm not sure I could have done it.





Decided to clean up the ends a little.





Just enough time before dark to try it out.





Full screen shot.
Staff note (paul wheaton) :

I certify that this BB is complete!

 
Posts: 49
6
composting toilet building sheep
  • Likes 1
  • Mark post as helpful
  • send pies
    Number of slices to send:
    Optional 'thank-you' note:
  • Quote
  • Report post to moderator
I took two "y" branches and hand drilled my holes. Then I chiseled them bigger all the way and made my legs with my hatchet and made them so they get bigger a little ways down. I did end up using different legs. I do not have them in the first pic but you can see they are from a old project. I had to get the last pic with all my tools that i used!!
IMG_20230614_152144.jpg
[Thumbnail for IMG_20230614_152144.jpg]
IMG_20230614_152152.jpg
[Thumbnail for IMG_20230614_152152.jpg]
IMG_20230614_152159.jpg
[Thumbnail for IMG_20230614_152159.jpg]
IMG_20230531_153907.jpg
[Thumbnail for IMG_20230531_153907.jpg]
IMG_20230531_154303.jpg
[Thumbnail for IMG_20230531_154303.jpg]
IMG_20230606_170141.jpg
[Thumbnail for IMG_20230606_170141.jpg]
IMG_20230606_170145.jpg
[Thumbnail for IMG_20230606_170145.jpg]
IMG_20230606_170147.jpg
[Thumbnail for IMG_20230606_170147.jpg]
IMG_20230606_170149.jpg
[Thumbnail for IMG_20230606_170149.jpg]
IMG_20230606_170723.jpg
[Thumbnail for IMG_20230606_170723.jpg]
IMG_20230606_170725.jpg
[Thumbnail for IMG_20230606_170725.jpg]
IMG_20230606_170727.jpg
[Thumbnail for IMG_20230606_170727.jpg]
IMG_20230608_202007.jpg
[Thumbnail for IMG_20230608_202007.jpg]
IMG_20230608_202010.jpg
[Thumbnail for IMG_20230608_202010.jpg]
IMG_20230614_152159.jpg
[Thumbnail for IMG_20230614_152159.jpg]
 
master gardener
Posts: 3289
Location: Carlton County, Minnesota, USA: 3b; Dfb; sandy loam; in the woods
1603
6
forest garden trees chicken food preservation cooking fiber arts woodworking homestead ungarbage
  • Mark post as helpful
  • send pies
    Number of slices to send:
    Optional 'thank-you' note:
  • Quote
  • Report post to moderator
Dakota, are the 4th and 5th pictures above part of the project? They seem to be displaying different material than the rest of the images. Also, it looks like you converted this from a BB submission to a regular post -- was that accidental?
 
Dakota Sweet
Posts: 49
6
composting toilet building sheep
  • Mark post as helpful
  • send pies
    Number of slices to send:
    Optional 'thank-you' note:
  • Quote
  • Report post to moderator
Approved submission
The y buck saw I had to use different wood for my legs so its not in my pic of what i used but you can see it in the last pic.
IMG_20230531_153907.jpg
[Thumbnail for IMG_20230531_153907.jpg]
IMG_20230531_154303.jpg
[Thumbnail for IMG_20230531_154303.jpg]
IMG_20230606_170141.jpg
[Thumbnail for IMG_20230606_170141.jpg]
IMG_20230606_170145.jpg
[Thumbnail for IMG_20230606_170145.jpg]
IMG_20230606_170727.jpg
[Thumbnail for IMG_20230606_170727.jpg]
IMG_20230606_170728.jpg
[Thumbnail for IMG_20230606_170728.jpg]
IMG_20230608_202007.jpg
[Thumbnail for IMG_20230608_202007.jpg]
IMG_20230608_202010.jpg
[Thumbnail for IMG_20230608_202010.jpg]
IMG_20230614_152144.jpg
[Thumbnail for IMG_20230614_152144.jpg]
Staff note (gir bot) :

Someone approved this submission.

 
no wonder he is so sad, he hasn't seen this tiny ad:
GAMCOD 2025: 200 square feet; Zero degrees F or colder; calories cheap and easy
https://permies.com/wiki/270034/GAMCOD-square-feet-degrees-colder
reply
    Bookmark Topic Watch Topic
  • New Topic